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Message: <blockquote data-quote="giosblue" data-source="post: 3336388" data-attributes="member: 134930">Yes it would have been nice to  have kept the Opto and had a play around with the Opticron and the Opto with the SDLv2, like you say a much fairer comparison. The Kowa is a really nice scope though, and the more you looked through it, the better it got. Although you can see the difference between scopes when going from one to the next, I think it takes some time with the scope the appreciate it.If I had more time on my hands and I was using using a scope enough I would get a Kowa 883/4. Anyway, once you're out there in good light looking at the birds in all their glory you forget what you're looking through and focus on what you're looking at.Up until joining this forum I never gave optics a second thought, they were just tools do a job. And despite there age they, still do a pretty good job.Ron</blockquote>