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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gijs van Ginkel" data-source="post: 3642983" data-attributes="member: 82596">mayoayo, post 26,I found my car analogy to the point, but we can of course disagree about that. We bought our car in Michigan by the way and we could have it fixed there but we refused. I agree that there are many analogies to be made and I have no objections to post them here if it is about telescopes or binoculars, but I am a bit allergic when far reaching conlusions are drawn on a few cases only, my shortcoming I realise. Actually I do not have an ATX and I am not looking for one either, I like much more compact and lightweight telescope and Swarovski does not have one that fits my needs, so there is nothing to defend. I work sometimes as a volunteer in a used items shop and one day somebody brought in a Swarovski EL 8x32, the eyecups were turned loose from the body and the owner was of the opinion that it was a worthless instrument and he told us that he would never buy a Swarovski again. A few turns and the instrument was repaired on the spot leaving the owner speechless.. and happy. If that had not occurred the owner would have been a walking negative advertisement for the brand.In the course of the years I have investigated many binoculars and telescopes form a lot of brands and  sometimes I stumbled upon rather strong shortcomings, but in my opinion the royal way is to speak to the company first that makes the binocular/telescope and discuss it. In the internet age that seems to change quickly.I enjoy the exchange on Birdforum and sometimes I like to make jokes, so the matter does not become too serious.Gijs van Ginkel</blockquote>

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