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August Moths (1 Viewer)

Really good variety today - 51 moths of 31 species - and three NFY: Swallow Prominent, Sallow Kitten and Common White Wave.

Numbers:

Tree Lichen Beauty 3
Knot Grass 2
LBBYUW 3
Heart and Club 2
Mother of Pearl 3
Flounced Rustic 4
Shuttle-shaped Dart 4
Ruby Tiger 2
Large YUW 4
Flame Shoulder 2
Vines Rustic 3

Another Pale Prominent was best of the rest, a Silver Y presumed migrant.

John
 
A surprising number of Straw Dots this morning, 18: my previous highest was 13 way back in 2009.
NFY are Canary-shouldered Thorn and Pale Prominent.
Nothing else worth mentioning in a catch of 85/29.

Steve
 
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13 species of c50 moths- 4 Jersey Tigers, 6 TLB’s, 6 Maiden’s Blush, Pebble Hook-Tip, c12 Oak Processionary, Clay and my first Old Lady of the year...not including the missus! 😂
 
82 moths of 29 species last night, one lifer - Bryotropha domestica, one new for the garden, Mother of Pearl, which brings my garden list to 303 and Epinotia ramella, Anomalous, Rosy Rustic, Sallow and Square-spot Rustic all new for the year. Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing were the most numerous at 20.
 
Some recent additions to the slowly growing micro list, Holly Tortrix (? opinions welcome), Elbow-stripe Grass-veneer, Maple Button & Fulvous Clothes-moth, as well as another Long-horned Flat-body.
 

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Been browsing the books, and realised that in a brain fart moment I put Lime-speck Pug instead of Bordered. I also now think that it's Grey Poplar Bell rather than a Holly Tortrix.
Two ticks last night, will post details when photos are sorted (and IDs checked)!
 
Been browsing the books, and realised that in a brain fart moment I put Lime-speck Pug instead of Bordered. I also now think that it's Grey Poplar Bell rather than a Holly Tortrix.
Two ticks last night, will post details when photos are sorted (and IDs checked)!
Not sure how many people use these newish names for micros? Trouble is most of the micro books don't give vernacular names except for a few well established ones like Small Magpie, Gold Triangle & Mother of Pearl. I recognised 4 of your micros but the English names went over my head.
 
Not sure how many people use these newish names for micros? Trouble is most of the micro books don't give vernacular names except for a few well established ones like Small Magpie, Gold Triangle & Mother of Pearl. I recognised 4 of your micros but the English names went over my head.
OK, sorry, didn't realise they were relatively new and underused.

Epinotia nisella (Grey Poplar Bell, which I thought at first was Rhipobota neavana, Holly Tortrix)

Agriphila geniculea (Elbow-stripe Grass-veneer)

Acleris forsskaleana (Maple Button)

Tinea semifulvella (Fulvous Clothes-moth)

Carcina quercana (Long-horned Flat-body)

I will make the effort to include both in future if it will make it easier and it will help me learn quicker.

Cheers.
 
Right then, last night, my two ticks were Antler Moth (nice and easy) and Wormwood Pug (trickier, hope I've got that right) and the year tick was a very smart Centre-barred Sallow. Otherwise, Large Yellow Underwing numbers are beginning to properly build up, with 32, and Copper Underwings have really started to announce their presence with 7 (I checked as many as I could and found no Svensson's). Other highlights included Chinese Character, 4 Flame Carpets, 2 July Highflyers, 1 Iron and 3 Swallow Prominents and a Spectacle. Also what I take to be a Golden-rod Pug (attached) and one I'm still deliberating. If I can't figure it out I'll select the best pics and ask for help.
 

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Right then, last night, my two ticks were Antler Moth (nice and easy) and Wormwood Pug (trickier, hope I've got that right) and the year tick was a very smart Centre-barred Sallow. Otherwise, Large Yellow Underwing numbers are beginning to properly build up, with 32, and Copper Underwings have really started to announce their presence with 7 (I checked as many as I could and found no Svensson's). Other highlights included Chinese Character, 4 Flame Carpets, 2 July Highflyers, 1 Iron and 3 Swallow Prominents and a Spectacle. Also what I take to be a Golden-rod Pug (attached) and one I'm still deliberating. If I can't figure it out I'll select the best pics and ask for help.
I think that it's virtually impossible to separate this species from Currant Pug without dissection?
 
Didn’t run the lights last night thus was surprised to find this “Lifer” on the kitchen window frame.
Apparently common/widespread in the “deep sauf” a first for me in c15 years...Least Yellow Underwing.👍
 

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So......ideas needed. On holiday in rural Devon and thinking would get loads of numbers. Go to the trap this morning and about 10 macros although one was a cracking Oak Eggar!!!! So what is the problem? Home made trap with blue plastic foldable storage crate, 2 x actinic bulbs across top, clear perspex V with 2cm slot in bottom 10cm from bottom of trap and no escape routes up the side. Eggboxes only stacked up to the sides. Seems to pretty much be same design as available online. Or maybe I need to be out checking it before 07.30am?
 

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10/08. Garden tick - Willow Ermine, Yponomeuta rorrella. Probably would have had this earlier if I'd realised that they weren't so difficult to identify. A post on Twitter gave some id tips. Had previously lumped it into the impossible to separate group.
NYF - Agriphila geniculea and Wax Moth. Haven't had many Wax Moths and they always give me id grief. Big and chunky for a micro.
Hi, would it be possible to post a link to the id tips. My recorder will only accept Thistle or Bird-cherry Ermine, with the others being considered too variable to be identified by appearance, and even dissection being of little help. I have had plenty of Ermine sp. this year, it would be nice to try and put a name to at least some.
 
Yet another garden tick this morning, my 7th this month - Bulrush Wainscot. And not a reed in sight.

Also Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing NFY but little else of note in a small catch, 43/24.
 
A few micros from Saturday night

Platyptilia gonodactyla (Triangle Plume)
Acrobasis advenella (Grey Knot-horn)
Apotomis betuletana (Birch Marble)
Batrachedra praeangusta (Poplar Cosmet)
 

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My mystery moth from Saturday was, I think, just a small, dark Common Rustic agg.
 

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A surprisingly thin night last night (17 individuals of 13 species) offset by the fact that at last I caught a Straw Underwing this year! Copper Underwing was also NFY.

Numbers, only the following reached the dizzy heights of two:

Shuttle-shaped Dart
Flame Shoulder
Vines Rustic
Heart and Dart

A Poplar Hawk-moth continued their run and a small, worn Silver Y made me work for the ID.

John
 
Hi, would it be possible to post a link to the id tips. My recorder will only accept Thistle or Bird-cherry Ermine, with the others being considered too variable to be identified by appearance, and even dissection being of little help. I have had plenty of Ermine sp. this year, it would be nice to try and put a name to at least some.
It was only about Willow Ermine.
It was posted by Ben Sale @Hertsmoths on 12/07/21. If you use Twitter you should be able to find it pretty easily. Ben is an avid moth-er and very good at micros. He has a blog too.
Hope that helps.
William.
 
Garden tick last night - Small Rufous. Other quality included a lovely Oak Hook-tip, September Thorn and Nutmeg. Large & Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwings each put in their highest tallies so far this year with 40 and 10 respectively, and were major contributors towards the 83 macros of 23 species.
 

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