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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mike Penfold" data-source="post: 1773136" data-attributes="member: 20203">Another option is the iPod Camera Connector, used with an iPod classic, and the camera's USB connecting cord.  While not quite as versatile as the iPod touch (no speaker; not usable with apps) the classic has 160 GB of memory, and is well-priced at around $250. CAD.  Used with an external speaker like the iMainGo2, it's also perfect to download the bird songs for a country (These can be placed in alpha order in playlists.). You can also download your entire CD collection.Mike</blockquote>