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<blockquote data-quote="jring" data-source="post: 3275552" data-attributes="member: 133897"><p>Hi,</p><p></p><p>Congratulations on the CZJ and Fujinon - both of them should be quite good and at least comparable to the ZOMZ I recommended, albeit a bit more expensive. I was able to compare my ZOMZ to one single example of Binoctem MC and I liked the ZOMZ a bit better, but I may have been biased - they were very close with the binoctem being a tad brighter and the ZOMZ having a wider sweet spot.</p><p>Btw. that ZOMZ or other soviet makers used CZJ glass is just an urban legend. They had no need to - they just took the whole factory plus key personal after WW2.</p><p></p><p>The difference between Binoctem and Jenoptem is just marketing - Jenoptem was introduced as a catch-all name for lower priced bins of all sizes (binoctem, dekarem, deltrintem, etc.) which were also still produced while in fact they were basically the same - maybe the named ones got a bit more finishing and/or selection. But you can get very good samples of Jenoptems too.</p><p></p><p>Btw. the Zeiss 7x50B mentioned above is a VERY collectible one made bei Zeiss West. No connection to CZJ at all. Due to the german division there was two Carl Zeiss companies after WW2 and both built binoculars. The West ones were usually a lot more expensive, thus sold in lower numbers and fetch higher prices today. As for quality they are mostly very good too.</p><p></p><p>Zeiss West is what now is known as Zeiss, the Sports Optics part of CZJ nowadays trades as Docter Optics.</p><p></p><p>Joachim</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jring, post: 3275552, member: 133897"] Hi, Congratulations on the CZJ and Fujinon - both of them should be quite good and at least comparable to the ZOMZ I recommended, albeit a bit more expensive. I was able to compare my ZOMZ to one single example of Binoctem MC and I liked the ZOMZ a bit better, but I may have been biased - they were very close with the binoctem being a tad brighter and the ZOMZ having a wider sweet spot. Btw. that ZOMZ or other soviet makers used CZJ glass is just an urban legend. They had no need to - they just took the whole factory plus key personal after WW2. The difference between Binoctem and Jenoptem is just marketing - Jenoptem was introduced as a catch-all name for lower priced bins of all sizes (binoctem, dekarem, deltrintem, etc.) which were also still produced while in fact they were basically the same - maybe the named ones got a bit more finishing and/or selection. But you can get very good samples of Jenoptems too. Btw. the Zeiss 7x50B mentioned above is a VERY collectible one made bei Zeiss West. No connection to CZJ at all. Due to the german division there was two Carl Zeiss companies after WW2 and both built binoculars. The West ones were usually a lot more expensive, thus sold in lower numbers and fetch higher prices today. As for quality they are mostly very good too. Zeiss West is what now is known as Zeiss, the Sports Optics part of CZJ nowadays trades as Docter Optics. Joachim [/QUOTE]
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