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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iveljay" data-source="post: 3476961" data-attributes="member: 37260">Well we all agree on one thing, neither are perfect and neither am I. I use one or the other, depending on the weather and what I am likely to be looking at. I'm not sure if 'everyone' still regards Zeiss FLs as alphas, but if I am yumping across country, I am generally hot, none to steady hand holding and appreciate, the better for me, handling of porros. The EII has the smoother focussing action compared to the waterproof Hibicht, so gets used more. Under more ideal conditions the FLs get used when I can hopefully see the difference. I tend to regard binoculars much as the lenses for my cameras, you pick to optics for the job and since the cost of a pair of binoculars is on a par with a decent lens, I thankfully 'need' fewer of them.The good news for me is that most of my bins are now a number of years old, meet my needs exactly and have no running costs - unlike most things I own.</blockquote>