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<blockquote data-quote="Johann Sebastian Bach" data-source="post: 3564165" data-attributes="member: 73231"><p>I saw the double crested cormorant during my borderline antisocial personality disorder phase (APD is more accurate than sociopath). </p><p></p><p>The most memorable part of that twitch was the enormously warm hospitality in a pub we went to on the night we arrived amongst the industrial wasteland which held this astonishingly dull bird. I probably remember more about the food we had than the bird itself - but the Baltimore oriole a couple of days later refreshed this twitcher's mindset.</p><p></p><p>But seriously, the mindset I deplore is the arrogant "better than you" view proposed by some. I recall a friend who'd just started twitching. On St Mary's one year, he was roundly upbraided by a couple of young-ish birders because he didn't know the hind-claw colour of a Marsh warbler. I still remember their vitriolic, obscenity-ridden language to him. These two guys were certainly expert bird finders and identifiers but I strongly suspect they had little else going for them. The "dude" as they disparagingly called him had a Ph.D., an O.B.E. and was the headteacher of one of the UK's largest secondary schools.</p><p></p><p>I know many very fine birders and ringers who have 1st rate identification skills. I'm sure their self-found lists are extensive but none of them need to define themselves by crowing about whose list is the bigger.</p><p></p><p>I suspect LGRE has a very large self-found list - and with that, your honour, I rest my case. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Peter</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Johann Sebastian Bach, post: 3564165, member: 73231"] I saw the double crested cormorant during my borderline antisocial personality disorder phase (APD is more accurate than sociopath). The most memorable part of that twitch was the enormously warm hospitality in a pub we went to on the night we arrived amongst the industrial wasteland which held this astonishingly dull bird. I probably remember more about the food we had than the bird itself - but the Baltimore oriole a couple of days later refreshed this twitcher's mindset. But seriously, the mindset I deplore is the arrogant "better than you" view proposed by some. I recall a friend who'd just started twitching. On St Mary's one year, he was roundly upbraided by a couple of young-ish birders because he didn't know the hind-claw colour of a Marsh warbler. I still remember their vitriolic, obscenity-ridden language to him. These two guys were certainly expert bird finders and identifiers but I strongly suspect they had little else going for them. The "dude" as they disparagingly called him had a Ph.D., an O.B.E. and was the headteacher of one of the UK's largest secondary schools. I know many very fine birders and ringers who have 1st rate identification skills. I'm sure their self-found lists are extensive but none of them need to define themselves by crowing about whose list is the bigger. I suspect LGRE has a very large self-found list - and with that, your honour, I rest my case. ;) Peter [/QUOTE]
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