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Message: <blockquote data-quote="amears" data-source="post: 3564343" data-attributes="member: 70879">The punks dealt very well with what is and isn't self found - still on the web if you look for it.Some people seem to have a genuine talent for bird finding.  I admire them and would love to be like them but alas, never will.  But it is such a thrill to find something rare that I sacrifice twitching to increase my chances of pulling it off.My take on measuring self-finds - a simple count, %s are not useful.Why Britain, etc?  Paul nailed it.Trainspotting, etc?  No!  We also have conservation as a massive string to our bow.  How many on here have contributed to something like atlas surveys or WEBS counts?  Loads I bet.</blockquote>