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Binocular bargains (3 Viewers)

Kevin Purcell

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Looking at the Leupold Cascade porros 8x42's on the Eagle Optics site and I noticed that their price has gone up - was $209 around Jan 11. Now they are $269. The Bushnell Legends were $109 and now $119 - not a big hike at all. Do bin prices fluctuate quite a bit?

That's odd. They're still $209 here.

http://www.eagleoptics.com/binoculars/leupold/leupold-cascades-8x42-porro-prism-binocular

In other Leupold news I noticed the Katmai's at BandH a week ago but my broswer crashed during the order. I meant to go back and order with another browser but never did it. Now there all gone.

But I notice they've been "on sale" at Eagle Optics (though at a price I don't find that hot) and now some are out of stock and the page has disappeared.

Odd. I wonder if they're coming to EOL? Or a revision is due?
 

lulubelle

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I am a bonehead - I looked at the Cascade roofs which are $269. No Frank, I haven't ordered them yet. I just received the Zens and I wanted to compare the PMs and the ZRs before I added another 1 or 2 to the mix. Next week I am going to order the Cascades and possibly the Legends.
 

FrankD

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We all make such mistakes. Truth be told I wish Leupold would have called them something else as I hate always having to write "Cascade porro" whenever I comment on them. ;)

I look forward to seeing what you have to say about these when you get them. Currently, the Cascade porros are my favorite Leupold bin thus far.
 

Kevin Purcell

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I wouldn't write off smaller FOVs without consideration of the trade offs. They often come with other benefits e.g. the Bushnell Legend 8x42 has a 6.4 degree FOV and has stray light control up there with the alpha bins (see my comments on the Zen Ray thread).

I've been reading a 1941 reprint which advices not to go for narrow 90 feet @ 1000yds FOV bins but to go for the wider 140 feet @ 1000yds FOV were possible.

Yeah, that latter one is 2.7 degrees ;)
 

orbitaljump

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Narrower fov usually equates to longer eye relief as well, for use with glasses or sunglasses.

I was pleasantly surprised I liked the 8x42 Legend Roofs so much. My sister loves them.
 

BirderSean

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good points, thanks for the reminder. . . and from what I recall, people also stress that a wide
FOV doesn't do much good if the edge of your lenses produces a blurry
image
 

FrankD

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good points, thanks for the reminder. . . and from what I recall, people also stress that a wide
FOV doesn't do much good if the edge of your lenses produces a blurry
image

True and a perfect example of the trade-offs one finds when looking at a wide field of view versus a comparably narrower one.

I have always been an advocate for wider field of view binoculars because I believe they provide a more relaxed image to the eye...especially when all else is equal. The problem arises though in that seldom is everything else equal. Getting a wider field of view can compromise eye relief, edge sharpness, stray light control, etc... Only in many of the more expensive models have you found designs that can control all of these issues well.

And, truthfully, up until some of these new ED bins started debuting I would have doubted that anyone could produce a wide field of view binocular with good edge sharpness, color fringing control, etc.... but at a relatively inexpensive (considering a comparison with $1000+ bins here) price.

Having said that there are at least a few fairly narrow field 8x binoculars in my possession right now (Leupold Cascade porro and Bushnell Legend roof) that offer totally satisfying images despite their fairly narrow field of view. I think the fact that they perform well in alternative optical qualities is the reason for this satisfaction. The Bushnell, as Kevin mentioned, controls stray light very well but it also offers, to my eyes, a very high level of contrast. Comparing it directly with its porro prism counterpart makes this extremely evident to my eyes. The cost? Well beside the narrower field of view it also displays noticeable levels of color fringing. But beyond that.....

The Cascade porro suffers from the same narrow field of view but what it does offer is excellent depth of field...equaling or excelling past almost any other bin I have owned...plus it also has very good edge sharpness. Both of these characteristics take one's attention away from the narrower field of view that it presents.
 

Kevin Purcell

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Here's a good one. Guess Nikon needs to rethink things and keep these in the line.

http://www.eagleoptics.com/binoculars/nikon/nikon-premier-se-8x32-binocular

They already have ... from the Eagle optics blog:

http://www.eagleopticsblog.com/2009/02/02/nikon-premier-se-back-by-popular-demand/

We are excitedly preparing our website for the new sport optics scheduled to arrive in 2009. But this morning brought an old favorite back to Eagle Optics. We again have in stock the highly coveted Nikon Premier SE 8×32 and 10×42 binoculars, also known as the Superior E.

This time-honored porro prism binocular has many enthusiasts who still sing its praises. High-index BaK-4 prisms and fully multi-coated lenses deliver sharp and bright images with a three-dimensional quality. Nikon topped off this premier binocular with an easy-to-hold design, lightweight magnesium-alloy construction, and 17.4mm eye relief, and delivers a binocular that is an understandable customer favorite.

This one will go fast—order soon!

Kristin

Eagle Optics Staff
 

oleaf

Well-known member
The EO blog was what led me to post the exact link to the product info.
I kind of figured it was obvious Nikon was keeping the bins in the line-up
as they're selling them again. I meant to put one of these after my follow up post;)

Cheers
 

Kevin Purcell

Well-known member
The EO blog was what led me to post the exact link to the product info.
I kind of figured it was obvious Nikon was keeping the bins in the line-up
as they're selling them again. I meant to put one of these after my follow up post;)

That wasn't obvious from your post. In fact the opposite seemed to be "obvious" to me given what you actually wrote in the post (and the link provided).

Anyway, it's nice to see they're back ;)
 

mrveloman

New member
I just purchased a new pair of Celestron Noble 10x42 binoculars for $112.50 plus $12.00 shipping on ebay from a seller with a "buy-it-now / make offer listing". They were listed for $125 and I first tried to offer $95 but was immediately refused. I then offered $100 and later got a counter offer for $112.50. I figure it was a good deal so made the purchase. The listing expires today but I imagine it will be re-listed since it indicated the seller had 24 pair to sell. If you're interested, do a ebay search for "Celestron Noble 10x42".

Mike in Atlanta
 

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