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Message: <blockquote data-quote="denco@comcast.n" data-source="post: 3660725" data-attributes="member: 25300"><p>The Swarovski CL 8x30 was the first alpha I bought this year. I tried a lot of different non-alpha binoculars which didn't work for me mostly because they had too much eye relief so I was happy when the CL's eye relief worked for me. I still just have the Canon 10x42 IS-L and the Nikon 8x30 EII which aren't really alpha's or are they? I am just curious about the Zeiss because I have heard a lot of good things about it here and on Cloudy Nights and I wanted to see if the 8x25's are still as touchy for eye placement as I remember them. I like the Canon but it is heavy to carry hiking and traveling so I have been looking for something more compact and I have tried a lot of the compacts on the market. That is why I tried the new CL and it impressed with me with the improvements they have made in the 30mm's so I wanted to try the new Zeiss Victory 8x25. I don't think I am on the alpha bandwagon. Rather, I am just trying to find a couple compacts that work for me with comparable optics to my EII and Canon.</p></blockquote><p></p>