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Message: <blockquote data-quote="denco@comcast.n" data-source="post: 3660837" data-attributes="member: 25300"><p>That sounds like it could be a problem for me if the eye cups are so small I have to insert them into my eye sockets too far. I can really ram the new Swarovski CL 8x30's eye cups into my eye sockets without any blackouts. You are right though that can be a problem with compacts and their smaller diameter eye cups. I don't like holding a binocular in front of my eyes to avoid blackouts but you really can't have too big of eye cups on a compact or they look out of proportion to the binocular. I got the Zeiss Victory 8x25 and I was right about the eye relief. They didn't work for me. In fact I had to hold them about 2 inches from face with eye cups fully extended to avoid blackouts. I didn't find them any sharper or having any better CA control then the new Swarovski 8x30 CL. The CL works a LOT better for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>