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Binoculars for young children (1 Viewer)

rentoncharman

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I have a 6 year old grandson who is a keen bird watcher and I would like to buy him his own bins. I have no idea what to buy! He has used my old Carl Zeiss Deltrintems but I think even these are a little heavy for him. Would appreciate any advice.
 

Tero

Retired
United States
Bushnell Excursion 8x28
I have a pair
It does not feel like a compact, so plenty big for a kid

also Pentax papillio, 6.5x or 8.5x
cool toy, see bugs close up too
 
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Kevin Purcell

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The standard answer is Leupold Yosemite 6x30.

The product development guy was designing it for his two kids so it can accomodate small IPDs; physically it is compact but grippable by kids; light weight (19oz); has a good FOV and good optics (so a favorite of the grown ups here too!).

Comes in three different muted colors (black, terracotta red, greeny tan) so if you have multiple kids (or one for yourself) they can be identified.

And is inexpensive ($90 but you can find it for $75 or $80 -- Cabelas recently)

Search the binoculars forum for the threads on it and it's design (the product dev manager posted here a few times).

EDIT: I note you don't have a location flag ... that often affects people's recommendations (US vs Euorpe). For example, you might find the Leupold's a little difficult to get in Europe.

I see you are in North Yorks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guisborough
 
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Alexis Powell

Natural history enthusiast
United States
Bushnell Excursion 8x28
also Pentax papillio, 6.5x or 8.5x

Compact roof-prism binoculars like the Bushnell mentioned here, and reverse-porros like the Pentax Papilio or Opticron Taiga would be great binos for kids except for one MAJOR failing--they don't have a small enough minimum interpupillary setting for most kids. In other words, the two sides of the bino don't come close enough together for a kid to actually see through both barrels. Many kids get used to only looking through one side (sometimes to the point that they don't realize they are doing it), but I don't consider that a good thing.

Right now, with a very few (and expensive) exceptions, the only binos with proper IPD spec for most 6 year olds are some traditional porro designs and the double-hinged pocket roof prism binoculars. The advantage of the former is that they have nice big exit pupils and they can have excellent optics at a low price, so they are easy to look through. The advantages of the latter are that they often focus closer (kids often like to look at nearby insects etc), fit kids' hands better (easier to reach the focus control), and are smaller overall.

My kids are now 4 and 7 years old. My 7 year old wears glasses. Both prefer the handling of the double-hinged pocket roofs over the porro, but when they want to see something, optical quality is more important to them than handling. Consequently, my son's favorite is my Zeiss 8x32 FL (expensive roof with 52 mm minimum IPD), followed by Leica 8x20 Ultravid (pocket roof), but if forced to pick between the Leupold 6x30 Yosemite (porro) and a cheap, optically crummy pocket roof like the Nikon 8x25 Sportstar, he much prefers the Yosemite. My 4 year old also prefers the view of the Yosemite but has a harder time w/the focus.

My recommendation is to first measure the IPD of your grandson. If he has an IPD of 56 mm or greater (unusual, but not impossible at this age) then you have the choice of most current and past production binoculars, in which case a moderately priced 8x32 roof with 6 foot close focus would be a good starting place (for combo of kid friendly ergonomics, decent optics, and close focus). If his IPD is under 56 mm, and you aren't wanting to spend lots of money, I'd pick the Leupold 6x30 Yosemite (minimum IPD is 50 mm) or a used vintage 8x30 porro with similar minimum IPD (must measure this before buying). If his IPD is much under 50 mm, the only good option is a pocket roof with the best optics you are willing to pay for.

In case my above comments aren't explicit enough, I'd say the Leupold 6x30 is the way to go unless his eyes or your wallet dimensions are outside the norm.

--AP
 
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Steve C

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I have to totally agree with AP here.
I went through a lot of compacts for kid over the years, and all were largely a flop. The Opticron Savanna referenced above seems to have addressed the IPD issue, but still leaves another kid related problem, small exit pupil size. The Yosemite has a double edged advantage of a good sized exit pupil, which makes eye placement easier and the IPD issue is solved. The Yosemite is good enough to take the kid to the next level and cheap enough to get a couple.
 

Kevin Purcell

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My kids are now 4 and 7 years old. My 7 year old wears glasses. Both prefer the handling of the double-hinged pocket roofs over the porro, but when they want to see something, optical quality is more important to them than handling. Consequently, my son's favorite is my Zeiss 8x32 FL (expensive roof with 52 mm minimum IPD), followed by Leica 8x20 Ultravid (pocket roof), but if forced to pick between the Leupold 6x30 Yosemite (porro) and a cheap, optically crummy pocket roof like the Nikon 8x25 Sportstar, he much prefers the Yosemite. My 4 year old also prefers the view of the Yosemite but has a harder time w/the focus.

Alexis: Quite clearly your preference for high quality optics is heritable!

It can't be long now until we find the location of the ALFA binocular gene. ;)
 

Tero

Retired
United States
On the cheaper end...well, relatively, Nikon Sportstar 8x25. Double hinge allows small ipd. People who have never heard of phase coating get along with these just fine.
 

rentoncharman

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Thanks for all the replies and advice. Need to do a bit of work on the net to source availability and prices in the UK.

Not sure what you meant by your reply Marcus!
 

normjackson

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If this is the Deltrintem model you have, Renton,
http://www.holgermerlitz.de/czj_85/page09.jpg
the Leupold Yosemite models probably won't offer a significant weight saving. As a stopgap measure until ~500g feels comfortable maybe could consider this compact, the Summit 8x26 MR
http://www.intro2020.co.uk/pages/summit2.htm
Available for £20-30 from places such as Focusonprice (do search for Nairn), MrCad, Surrey Photography (who also advertise on Ebay) and CameraKing.
 

MacGee

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Unfortunately the Yosemite is only available in this country from Rother Valley Optics Ltd for an extortionate price—£90 including postage.

The Opticron Savanna 8x23, £61.50 including postage from Sherwoods, has a minimum IPD of 54, designed for 'children as young as 7'. If that would do, check that you get the '54' version, because there was an earlier version that had a bigger minimum IPD

Otherwise your only choice is the double-hinge compact roofs that Alexis mentioned. I had Norm's Summit 8x26 bins and I didn't like them at all; fuzzy image devoid of sharpness and a close focus distance that was unimaginably huge. Something like the Opticron Imagic 8x25 is much better quality, but more expensive at £110.

Michael
 

Paskman

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Unfortunately the Yosemite is only available in this country from Rother Valley Optics Ltd for an extortionate price—£90 including postage.

The Opticron Savanna 8x23, £61.50 including postage from Sherwoods, has a minimum IPD of 54, designed for 'children as young as 7'. If that would do, check that you get the '54' version, because there was an earlier version that had a bigger minimum IPD

Otherwise your only choice is the double-hinge compact roofs that Alexis mentioned. I had Norm's Summit 8x26 bins and I didn't like them at all; fuzzy image devoid of sharpness and a close focus distance that was unimaginably huge. Something like the Opticron Imagic 8x25 is much better quality, but more expensive at £110.

Michael

I got a pair of brand new Yosemites 6x30s on fleabay from the USA for £36 inc postage :t:

They are ace and my 6 year old loves them. He also likes the Papillios that I have - spoilt child!

Paul
 

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