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Bird ID help (1 Viewer)


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I'm new to the forum and this is my first post.
Any thoughts on what bird this is? I saw it in July at Charleston Lake, which is northeast of Kingston, Ontario. Possibly a grosbeak, or female scarlet tanager?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!



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Carpe Carpum
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Sorry Scott. Can’t help with the bird but wanted to say welcome to BirdForum from all staff and moderators.



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Scarlet Tanager is the only likely species in that location. Which is helpful, because ID of tanagers is tricky when you're not looking at a breeding male -- though the dark wings are somewhat helpful in this case.

I think this one is an immature male (darker wings than a female especially at the shoulder, and a hint of reddish tones at the forehead), and he's either molting heavily or still growing his first feathers - you can see a half-formed feather at the top of the head, for example, and you'll notice gaps in plumage at the throat, the backs of the cheeks, etc. I think I can see a bit of "juvenile gape" - a thickened "lip" at the base of the beak that's usually bright-colored in nestlings. It's not usually visible in photos of birds more than a few weeks old, but most photos don't usually show this much detail so I may just be seeing an adult gape.

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