bird identification help (1 Viewer)

[wildwalker]

Hello. I have tried too ID these birds from a book and online but I'm struggling, any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
All bird picts taken at Sillverdale, Lancashire on 14/08/16.

 

[MTem]

Well 1, 3 & 4 are juveniles so that makes things a bit more confusing at this time of year as most field guides don't cover them well.

I'd say ....

1. Juvenile chiffchaff for me despite the prominent supercilium and the pale legs. The primary projection is short, and the cheek is a uniform colour.
2. Spotted flycatcher
3 Juvenile Northern Wheatear
4. Juvenile Common redstart - male, juvenile moulting to adult plumage.

Mick

 

[wildwalker]

Well 1, 3 & 4 are juveniles so that makes things a bit more confusing at this time of year as most field guides don't cover them well.

I'd say ....

1. Juvenile chiffchaff for me despite the prominent supercilium and the pale legs. The primary projection is short, and the cheek is a uniform colour.
2. Spotted flycatcher
3 Juvenile Northern Wheatear
4. Juvenile Common redstart - male, juvenile moulting to adult plumage.

Mick

Thank you I can name the pictures now

 

[tconzemi]

1. Juvenile chiffchaff for me despite the prominent supercilium and the pale legs. The primary projection is short, and the cheek is a uniform colour.

Mick

I see a rather long pp and a lemon juvie Willow Warbler

 

[MrBiffa]

Second Tom's view

 

[MTem]

Yes well now I look more carefully on a big screen I see the outer primary extends further than I could see on my tablet .... mouthful of humble pie taken.... WW it is.
Mick

 

[P.Sunesen]

Well 1, 3 & 4 are juveniles so that makes things a bit more confusing at this time of year as most field guides don't cover them well.

I'd say ....

1. Juvenile chiffchaff for me despite the prominent supercilium and the pale legs. The primary projection is short, and the cheek is a uniform colour.
2. Spotted flycatcher
3 Juvenile Northern Wheatear
4. Juvenile Common redstart - male, juvenile moulting to adult plumage.

Mick

They have all moulted into first winter plumage particularly noticeable in the Wheatear and the Redstart, which both have a drap greyish and brownish plumage with distinct spotting in their juvenile plumages, lacking the richness of colour so obvious in these pics.

Peter

 

[MTem]

Agreed Peter, I used the (technically inaccurate as you say) term 'juvenile' here to avoid further confusion. Suffice to say they were born this year......

 

[P.Sunesen]

Agreed Peter, I used the (technically inaccurate as you say) term 'juvenile' here to avoid further confusion. Suffice to say they were born this year......

Thought so, but ringers here in Denmark claim that adult Redstart males can be as drap as your bird in fresh plumage (IMO it's a rather well-coloured 1cy)........

Peter

 

[Nutcracker]

... with distinct spotting in their juvenile plumages, ...

Hi Peter - any thoughts on the recent White-throated Robin query? Presumably also a first-winter rather than a juvenile?

Oh, and PS, drab