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Message: <blockquote data-quote="coaltit" data-source="post: 3543807" data-attributes="member: 128655">Bird Numbers.Not as I have noticed and being illegal to kill raptors probabily helpssome local estate land often as buzzard and the occasional ravens about and this is used for pheasant shooting and red legged partridge to, I remember back to the 1970,s they had a game keeper who was trigger happy thou in those days it would be crows or the occasional rooks ( even now rooks numbers are kept down near one rookery I know) and the odd jay and magpies to thank god these birds were not around then or before thou theyperhaps were in the past but scarcer not Includeing the raven thou is journey here before may have been hundreds of years ago and not common then, along with different ownership of the estate may have worked in the birds Interests I hope so, the only downside is blokes who think they can course fast dogs on to hares and go where they like if they can get away with it they are organised and do it when its quite the old game keeper regardless of who owned the dogs if he saw the dogs lose on the estate he would put two barrels into them from his shotgun he must turn in his grave now.</blockquote>