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Birding at Dalat on a budget (1 Viewer)

Hi Alphan

Researching a trip to Vietnam next March - can you give me details of the guide you mentioned at $50 per person for 2 days and which area was that covering? Was the guide one you would recommend?

Any other info on local guides you can recommend would be appreciated

Thanks Pash
 
A better guide would be the park guide from Cat Tien. He works as park guide and you can only book him from park hq. He also do freelance guiding to Dalat and a few other birding spots but you have to bring him from Cat Tien and cover all his daily expenses and his return to Cat Tien after your trip. Many birding tour companies also use him. He will be fully booked out during peak season. The other guides charges more but are not that experienced.
 
Ta Nung update.

I've been back now after many years. The place has now been fully transformed in one of those Dalat kitsch parks, where tourists take selfies in front of flowery heart shaped installations etc. Quite a horror compared to the splendid piece of nature it used to be.

But then, the birds are still there. I've seen the Crocias, Slaty-backed Forktail, Indochinese Green Magpie and plenty else (but the Orange-breasted Laughingthrush is gone here). People start to arrive in masses only from 9-10 am or so, when birding slows down anyway. So from 10, you can sit down with a coffee and switch to people watching.
 

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Dalat - recent information!

Alphan,

I wonder how your recent trip went to Dalat? I am going there for 4 days in mid-June 2019 and with limited time and I want to maximize my chances of getting the endemics. Any tips would be appreciated,

John Kennedy
 
Hello everybody..i'm new bird photographer..i run across this old forum, planning to visit Da Lat for birding on March/April 2025.Anybody can guide me or recommend me a guide who can assist me in Da Lat?? Thank you in advance , really appriciate your help..
 
If you cover my flight costs, I will happily guide you :)

Otherwise, the most reputable providers of guiding services in Vietnam are:

There are also individual guides, who may be a little cheaper, you need to google or check some trip reports for them. I don't think there are guides resident in Da Lat.
Thank you for your reply sir..by the way how much is your flight ticket sir?? are you living in Vietnam?? or other contry?
 
If you cover my flight costs, I will happily guide you :)

Otherwise, the most reputable providers of guiding services in Vietnam are:

There are also individual guides, who may be a little cheaper, you need to google or check some trip reports for them. I don't think there are guides resident in Da Lat.
I heard there is a park staff of Bidoup running his private guiding business, partnering another guide in Cat Tien. This group had set up quite a number of private hides in various National Parks.
 
Ta Nung update.

I've been back now after many years. The place has now been fully transformed in one of those Dalat kitsch parks, where tourists take selfies in front of flowery heart shaped installations etc. Quite a horror compared to the splendid piece of nature it used to be.

But then, the birds are still there. I've seen the Crocias, Slaty-backed Forktail, Indochinese Green Magpie and plenty else (but the Orange-breasted Laughingthrush is gone here). People start to arrive in masses only from 9-10 am or so, when birding slows down anyway. So from 10, you can sit down with a coffee and switch to people watching.
Some time has passed in the meantime, are there any recent experiences regarding Ta Nung Valley? Are the birds still there? I am currently in Dalat and have already tried to find the right place today. Unfortunately in vain. I would like to try again tomorrow. Is Hoa Son Dien Trang Ecotourism Destination the right address? Thanks for any information.
 
I've not been back since, regrettably, but curious to hear your update.

Yes, you got the correct name. Here the location: Hoa Son Dien Trang Ecotourism Destination · Tiá»u khu 159 Phưá»ng 5 hưá»ng Äi Äèo, 159 ÄT725, P. 5, Äà Lạt, Lâm Äá»ng 670000, Vietnam
Thanks, I was there at just after seven this morning, which was a precision landing in that a man had also just arrived to unlock the gate. The entrance fee was 80,000 VND.

Two couples were already on the premises, each with a guide. I don't know how they got in, maybe the guides have a key, I didn't ask because they were busy and I was too.

The good news: birds are still on site. I was able to photograph six different species. I have to add that I only count the ones that produce more or less usable pictures. I have actually noticed (seen or at least heard) considerably more, perhaps twice as many, but as I am only interested in photos, I don't care about the other species. I don't tick off any lists or anything like that. I have sighted the following species: Black-crested Bulbul, Black-throated Sunbird, Mrs. Gould's Sunbird, Green-tailed Sunbird, Burmese Shrike, Grey Drongo. I'm not 100% sure about the Sunbirds yet and have already asked for support, you can also see photos there.

The complex looks a bit neglected in many places, they don't seem to put much effort into maintenance. The restaurant and café were closed, only a stall selling coffee bean and other items near the entrance area opened later. I stayed there for around 3 hours, no other visitors arrived until around 10.30am.

Conclusion: I am reasonably satisfied. The fact that I manage a handful of usable pictures during a morning birdwatching session is a normal quota for me. Incidentally, I now also know why I didn't find the spot yesterday. The Grab app had suggested a different, similar-sounding location: Hoa Son Dien Vien Ecological Tourist Village (instead of the correct location description, which reads as follows in the app: Hoa Son Dien Trang Tourist Village). I almost made the same mistake again, but this time I paid attention.

Even if I can't compare it to the past, it still seems to be worth a visit.
 
Black-throated Sunbird, Mrs. Gould's Sunbird, Green-tailed Sunbird, Burmese Shrike, Grey Drongo. I'm not 100% sure about the Sunbirds yet and have already asked for support, you can also see photos there.
Thanks for the update!

Nice sunbird pics. The first one is Black-throated (the orange-breasted Dalat subspecies), the second one Mrs. Goulds, the third one a female of some sort, don't have a book here to check more.
 
Thanks, I was there at just after seven this morning, which was a precision landing in that a man had also just arrived to unlock the gate. The entrance fee was 80,000 VND.

Two couples were already on the premises, each with a guide. I don't know how they got in, maybe the guides have a key, I didn't ask because they were busy and I was too.

The good news: birds are still on site. I was able to photograph six different species. I have to add that I only count the ones that produce more or less usable pictures. I have actually noticed (seen or at least heard) considerably more, perhaps twice as many, but as I am only interested in photos, I don't care about the other species. I don't tick off any lists or anything like that. I have sighted the following species: Black-crested Bulbul, Black-throated Sunbird, Mrs. Gould's Sunbird, Green-tailed Sunbird, Burmese Shrike, Grey Drongo. I'm not 100% sure about the Sunbirds yet and have already asked for support, you can also see photos there.

The complex looks a bit neglected in many places, they don't seem to put much effort into maintenance. The restaurant and café were closed, only a stall selling coffee bean and other items near the entrance area opened later. I stayed there for around 3 hours, no other visitors arrived until around 10.30am.

Conclusion: I am reasonably satisfied. The fact that I manage a handful of usable pictures during a morning birdwatching session is a normal quota for me. Incidentally, I now also know why I didn't find the spot yesterday. The Grab app had suggested a different, similar-sounding location: Hoa Son Dien Vien Ecological Tourist Village (instead of the correct location description, which reads as follows in the app: Hoa Son Dien Trang Tourist Village). I almost made the same mistake again, but this time I paid attention.

Even if I can't compare it to the past, it still seems to be worth a visit.
Glad to hear that. From my return visit many years ago, the development for the tourism industry had mainly been on the slope and the pond at the dam. The valley part after the dam, all the way to the main road remain very productive. Hope more will be updated.
 
Thanks for the update!

Nice sunbird pics. The first one is Black-throated (the orange-breasted Dalat subspecies), the second one Mrs. Goulds, the third one a female of some sort, don't have a book here to check more.
Thank you. Then I wasn't so far wrong.
 

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