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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Martin Thomas" data-source="post: 1224494" data-attributes="member: 8214">The 450D is indeed a superb camera but bear in mind the lens will not be much use for birds at any real distance so you will have to budget for a longer lens if that's what you want to photograph.The Canon printer in the Dabs deal is a cheap model which can be bought for less than £30 at many outlets and a set of inks will probably cost you more than the printer!According to <a href="http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/</a> the best 450D with lens kit deal is just under £470 so the Dabs deal isn't very competitive.Remember to budget for a good quality, high speed & decent capacity memory card as the camera is supplied 'bare' and at 12 million pixels it's quite hungry when shooting RAW images.</blockquote>