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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sancho" data-source="post: 1544983" data-attributes="member: 27039">This is only anecdotal, but a typical male birder pattern here (Ireland South) is one who was interested in nature and/or art as a kid, got into birds/drawing birds, drifted out of the hobby at puberty (pursuing more pressing concerns<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />), and took it up again later in life, possibly after marriage etc. At least I know a few blokes who fall into that category.LOL! Well that shatters one of my illusions. I had hoped that there was one last country left where I could wander aimlessly with binoculars and an anorak, and still be considered a Real Man.</blockquote>