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<blockquote data-quote="MKinHK" data-source="post: 1449467" data-attributes="member: 21760"><p>Hi Daniel</p><p></p><p>Good to hear from you!</p><p></p><p>As a birder of the old school I would split it on the striking morphological differences in both sexes, but also on distribution, because it is recognized by HKBWS in the Avifauna of HK, and Brazil 2008 also recognizes it in the Birds of East Asia - more than enough for me!</p><p></p><p>And if the paper you cite notes differences in call/song, then so much the better.</p><p></p><p>As for the lumpers - its not as if I'll ever see the mitochondrial DNA of any bird anyway . . . </p><p></p><p>and finally . . . since I'm just a humble birder whose opinion counts for precisely zero in taxonomic circles, I have the wonderful freedom to think exactly as I please!!</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p><p>Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MKinHK, post: 1449467, member: 21760"] Hi Daniel Good to hear from you! As a birder of the old school I would split it on the striking morphological differences in both sexes, but also on distribution, because it is recognized by HKBWS in the Avifauna of HK, and Brazil 2008 also recognizes it in the Birds of East Asia - more than enough for me! And if the paper you cite notes differences in call/song, then so much the better. As for the lumpers - its not as if I'll ever see the mitochondrial DNA of any bird anyway . . . and finally . . . since I'm just a humble birder whose opinion counts for precisely zero in taxonomic circles, I have the wonderful freedom to think exactly as I please!! Cheers Mike [/QUOTE]
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