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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wetlands_wedge" data-source="post: 926362" data-attributes="member: 47078">"The problem with relying on plumage is that we usually see birds (here in the SE at any rate) which are either in the process of gaining or losing their Summer plumage and any given flock of birds can show enormous differences amongst them." (Ruby)Hiya!We were at the London Wetland Centre yesterday where this was most apparent. Two seperate groups of Blackwits dropped in (3 and 6) and were in various stages of moult. Still, had lovely views down to about twenty metres!</blockquote>