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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John Cantelo" data-source="post: 1329597" data-attributes="member: 2844">I have a lot of sympathy with this view.  Although I wouldn't describe myself as a strong nationalist, we have precious few uniquely English celebrations and it'd be a shame to ditch one of the few remaining examples.   I also agree that it's a pity that the celebrations have been stretched out in the way they have these days.  I also take on board the comments previously by the former firefighter - there's no doubt that there are too many casulaties and dangers associated with Guy Fawkes Night.  Then again, perhaps our society is already becoming too swaddled by H&S awareness.  As for my use of the word 'killjoys', I apologise if it caused offence.  Although I sometimes find bangs and flashes tiresome, they certainly cause me far less inconvenience than dog muck, ill disciplined dogs and inconsiderate dog walkers when I go birding.  However, I can cope with such daily aggrevation without too difficulty.  Part of the problem is, of course, that living with humans isn't natural for canines and, as a consequence, there will be conflicts.As for the 'environmental impact' of Bonfire Night - which despite the heading has carcely been touched upon - I would say that this was, particularly when compared to our daily activities - so small in anything but the extremely short term to be absolutely neglible,John</blockquote>