Brazilian hummer from the gallery (2 Viewers)

[njlarsen]

https://www.birdforum.net/gallery/brazilian-ruby.581867/ Is this one correctly identified? If so, what age/sex is it?

thanks
Niels

 

[THE_FERN]

I don't know this species but looks ok for (immature?) male judging by ebird images. Perhaps the throat colour led to doubts? ... Suggest the colour in this pic is just down to ambient light:-- usually appears pink

 

[njlarsen]

It was actually the grey underside that threw me off. I can find a few images where there might be grey on the underside once you are past the images labeled "best". This was not mentioned in my field guides from Brazil, and likewise not mentioned in BotW.

Niels

 

[njlarsen]

Supplemental: wikiaves do brasil has this labeled as a juvenile: https://www.wikiaves.com.br/606944&t=s&s=10653&tag=FOTOJOVEM
This is slightly grey: https://www.wikiaves.com.br/2&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=3
This one might be grey but might be green if seen from the front: https://www.wikiaves.com.br/1712732&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=21
If they show some grey they are typically green on the feathers directly fronting the camera. Not the same color grey as in the original image, see e.g., https://www.wikiaves.com.br/290749&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=24
This might be one of the closests https://www.wikiaves.com.br/2588397&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=41

Wikiaves presents 8 images per page and I went through about 50 without finding one with the same color of grey as in the image from our gallery.

Niels

 

[THE_FERN]

Supplemental: wikiaves do brasil has this labeled as a juvenile: https://www.wikiaves.com.br/606944&t=s&s=10653&tag=FOTOJOVEM
This is slightly grey: https://www.wikiaves.com.br/2&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=3
This one might be grey but might be green if seen from the front: https://www.wikiaves.com.br/1712732&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=21
If they show some grey they are typically green on the feathers directly fronting the camera. Not the same color grey as in the original image, see e.g., https://www.wikiaves.com.br/290749&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=24
This might be one of the closests https://www.wikiaves.com.br/2588397&tm=f&t=s&s=10653&o=mp&p=41

Wikiaves presents 8 images per page and I went through about 50 without finding one with the same color of grey as in the image from our gallery.

Niels

Ah. I didn't register this as especially grey as I could see the green notes in it. I often see hummers with poorly developed colours like this which, if not due to lighting, I think denotes immaturity

 

[njlarsen]

And seeing this image on the third different screen I think I see some as well. I will therefore agree with you on immature male for this one. It is important because we do not have a representation for something like this in the opus page at the moment.

Niels