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Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'
Brilliant Larry, I'm well gripped off there.

Hopefully just giving you some extra sites there for your trip H ;)

Ads - Now we're back to square 1 we're considering not getting a 4X4. Were there other sites apart from Iron range where you needed one ? (we're not going to WA). Eg can we do Atherton area without one? We're also wondering if it's poss to hire a 4x4 just for Iron Range (Chowchilla, have you done or looked into that for costs etc?).

Re Regent Honeys :A local birder recently reported no less than 12 Regent honeys at Glenowlan road bridge!!, and mentioned that it was unusual for the trees along the river to be flowering at this time of year. Shame we had no luck with Turquoise Parrot and Plum-headed Finch, but you can't have everything!
 
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chowchilla

Maderator.
Hopefully just giving you some extra sites there for your trip H ;)

Ads - Now we're back to square 1 we're considering not getting a 4X4. Were there other sites apart from Iron range where you needed one ? (we're not going to WA). Eg can we do Atherton area without one? We're also wondering if it's poss to hire a 4x4 just for Iron Range (Chowchilla, have you done or looked into that for costs etc?).

Re Regent Honeys :A local birder recently reported no less than 12 Regent honeys at Glenowlan road bridge!!, and mentioned that it was unusual for the trees along the river to be flowering at this time of year. Shame we had no luck with Turquoise Parrot and Plum-headed Finch, but you can't have everything!

Hi Larry,
Sorry I don't drive so I haven't looked into the feasibility/costs of doing the Iron Ranges in a 4x4. I could ask around for you mind, I'll get back to you on that one.

What time of year do you plan on being up here? The Wet really sets in around December though of course you could have unseasonal weather as BBB did (in fact as I look out the window it's raining right now).

The road up through Cape York is mostly unpaved but reasonably good when it isn't flooded. The Portland Road into the Iron Ranges is a lot muddier as it's a wetter area and can deteriorate rapidly after heavy rain so I believe.

Most sites in the Atherton Area are easily accessible by tarmac: Kuranda, Lakes Barrine and Eacham, Hastie's Swamp, Bromfield Crater, Mt Hypipamee, Ravenshoe and Herberton areas, Mareeba Wetlands and Big Mitchell Creek area, Mt Molloy, Mt Carbine and Julatten.

The Danbulla State Forest and National Park road is pretty good when it isn't too wet; I've been up Mt Lewis in someone's hatchback but I can imagine it's very tricky to negotiate in wet weather without 4X; I imagine the same applies for the upper reaches of the road south of Topaz (for Blue-faced Finch, if you don't find them at Mt Lewis) which is an exceptionally wet area even at this time of year. Basically, if you want to explore up any unpaved side road that's steep and wet, then a 4x is always going to be better, but a regular car will get you easily to most places, plus it's a compact area that can be covered pretty quickly.
 
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birdboybowley

Well-known member.....apparently so ;)
Supporter
England
Hey Larry

As Chowchilla says, a 4x4 isn't necessary for most of the sites you wanna visit although Mt Lewis could be a bit tricky if it's wet, but I believe it would be possible in a normal car as it's not really that bad...! Maybe look at getting a Subaru 4x4 estate-thingy - in fact the 2 birdos we met coming out of the Iron Range were in one and they got further in than I dared...!! My bro used to have one when he lived in WA so they're not that expensive and you can sleep in it. Just a thought
Good news on the RH's...and I didn't get the other two either! Did you see the Ostrich along the road to Glen Davis?!
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Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'
Sydney still.....

Thanks guys. We're just feeling incredibly relieved that we've now got our money back on a dodgy motor after a bit of a confrontation with used car dealers full of lies, so anything that works and gets us out of here will be a bonus. IF we get out of here, then we'll probably hit north Queensland between 1 and 2 months from now. If we don't get a 4x4 we might try and hitch to Iron range, or something equally potty, from wherever we leave our vehicle further south. We're up for sharing costs though if Chowchilla or anyone else is up for any trips once we get up that way.

Didn't score the Ostrich by the way Ads. Chance of natural vagrancy;)? Did see 2 rather tame Buff-banded Rails in the botanical gardens yesterday though.

913 Buff-banded Rail
 

chowchilla

Maderator.
Thanks guys. We're just feeling incredibly relieved that we've now got our money back on a dodgy motor after a bit of a confrontation with used car dealers full of lies, so anything that works and gets us out of here will be a bonus. IF we get out of here, then we'll probably hit north Queensland between 1 and 2 months from now. If we don't get a 4x4 we might try and hitch to Iron range, or something equally potty, from wherever we leave our vehicle further south. We're up for sharing costs though if Chowchilla or anyone else is up for any trips once we get up that way.

Didn't score the Ostrich by the way Ads. Chance of natural vagrancy;)? Did see 2 rather tame Buff-banded Rails in the botanical gardens yesterday though.

913 Buff-banded Rail

I'm deffo up for trips out of Cairns to go to places I otherwise would struggle to get to. I'll pay my way naturally.:t:
 

halftwo

Wird Batcher
But I'm not doing NSW Larry! (Wish I were).
There'll be another time, hopefully.
To repeat what Chowchilla & BBB have said, I did the Atherton area (inc. Mt. Lewis) in a 2 wheel drive, but it was at the end of the dry season (Oct.)
You could always hire a 4x4 for a few days in Cairns if necessary.
H
 

chowchilla

Maderator.
But I'm not doing NSW Larry! (Wish I were).
There'll be another time, hopefully.
To repeat what Chowchilla & BBB have said, I did the Atherton area (inc. Mt. Lewis) in a 2 wheel drive, but it was at the end of the dry season (Oct.)
You could always hire a 4x4 for a few days in Cairns if necessary.
H
Yep, Cairns is a city of 140K folks and is very much geared for tourists, including car hire naturally. When I get lots of visa stuff out of the way (I'm in the middle of applying for Permanent Residency) I'll ask around for info on car hire.
 

pem4348

Member
Hi both,

Your friend is right about the Subaru. They were much cheaper in Oz last year than here in UK, and represent excellent value. They are well engineered and should also be much cheaper to run and smoother and faster.
However, that doesn't mean that they might not have been abused and that the vendor isn't a shark.
If you go swimming and want to enjoy the water you have to take a risk!! But then again, would it be any fun if there were no risks and you know you have to have wheels.
Have you thought about paying for an inspection, if you find a vehicle you like? It might be worth it for peace of mind and could save you money.
By the way, most of your correspondents seem to be envious/impressed with your efforts so far, but you seem very uptight at times. Are you a perfectionist, or is it just the stress of buying a car? You seem to be doing OK to me.
Anyway, good luck both and don't rush things too much. Take a little time to enjoy OZ and the Ozzies.

Take care and good birding.

Paul Mollatt
 

birdboybowley

Well-known member.....apparently so ;)
Supporter
England
Don't think 'uptight' is the right word there Paul
'Stressed' would be a better choice. It comes with the territory I'm afraid, mainly down to the fact that you've worked like hell to get the money together to do something like this and money worries always play on your mind as you travel round - you're spending it but not replenishing it....so every penny counts and it can be quite frustrating.
As to the birds, depends on how into you are I guess....my year travelling was the best experience of my life but I still got seriously stressed when missing some birds..again, goes with the territory. I think Larry's doing really well and he better stop seeing the birds I missed or else....!!!;)
 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'
Hey, I am enjoying it really, just thought I'd fit in the odd whinge as is my pommy birthright ;). Don't worry Paul we are enjoying the good bits, and I'm finding the less successful bits funny. We were genuinely very worried though at one point that we'd just effectively thrown away 1000s of pounds.

Anyway... we've bought a little van, and had it looked over. Thought we'd live life with a bit more space, and just worry about not being able to get to the tougher sites when/if the time comes. Northward bound !!!
 

chowchilla

Maderator.
Hey, I am enjoying it really, just thought I'd fit in the odd whinge as is my pommy birthright ;). Don't worry Paul we are enjoying the good bits, and I'm finding the less successful bits funny. We were genuinely very worried though at one point that we'd just effectively thrown away 1000s of pounds.

Anyway... we've bought a little van, and had it looked over. Thought we'd live life with a bit more space, and just worry about not being able to get to the tougher sites when/if the time comes. Northward bound !!!
Phew, sorted at last!

I spoke to John Seale today and he said you would need a 4x hire car on all dirt roads 'by law' unless you just don't tell anyone...;)

He reckons the Iron Ranges is readily accessible for the next few months in a regular vehicle, though of course if the weather turns...

I'll try and get some quotes on 4x hire for you if you decide to go that route for Cape York.
 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'
just a quickie... having a nightmare trying to find Relict Raven around Coff's harbour at the moment. Just worked out it's Torresian Crow that I'm seeing everywhere. Thanks for help with this from BBB and Chowchilla. A few more hours and we'll move on and I may well have dipped. And yes, I am uptight about it!! But it was my only target bird between Sydney and Byron Bay. Van's running like a dream though.
 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'
North NSW

Hi VB, (that's a kind of beer where we are now!) hope yor travel plans are coming together. Don't get envious get even ;)

We'd forgotten how wonderful living in a van is and waking up with a different scene around us every morning. Round here this has generally meant rather tame Kookaburras, Crimson Rosellas and Aussie Magpies etc. keeping a very close eye on our breakfasts. There have also been plenty of interesting mammals lately, at least 4 species of kangaroo type things, and even some whales fairly close to shore at Coff's Harbour.

Before leaving Sydney a Musk Duck in Centennial Park was a surprise, and we had great views of a feral flock of Long-billed Corellas. Our first park up outside Sydney was at Myall Lakes where Rufous Whistler, Crested Shrike-Tit, and Whistling Kite were added to the trip list.

We then headed north quite quickly to the Coff's Harbour area where I was particularly keen on finding Relict Raven as it would probably be the only time we will be in this bird's range on this trip. We parked up near Dorrigo Rainforest National Park with an amazing panoramic view. We connected with several rainforest species, Australian Brush-Turkey, Large-billed and Yellow-throated Scrub-wrens, Brown Cuckoo-Dove and Brown Gerygone, all being common. We also saw Noisy Pitta, Bassian Thrush, and Wonga Pigeon along the short trail from the visitor centre. Searching for the Raven however was unsuccessful between here and the town of Coff's Harbour. All the corvids we managed to identify were Torresian Crows, which were quite confusing at first as they had quite a wide vocal range and were shorter tailed and larger billed proportionately when compared to the Australian Ravens that we had been used to seeing in Sydney. At the harbour we also saw our first Sooty Oystercatchers of the trip and a Brush Cuckoo was perhaps unusual for the time of year (or perhaps not?). We had our first very close views here of the amazing Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoos. Eventually though we had to leave the area having been gripped off by the dastardly and evil Mr Bowley ;).

Our next stop was an overnight at Broadwater National Park where the symbol of the local council turned out to be a picture of a Ground Parrot. We just had to give it a go and park up here. No luck again with these but goodies included Blue-faced Honeyeater en route, Rainbow Bee-eater, Scarlet Honeyeaters and a Swamp Harrier.

We then pressed on to Nimbin where we are at the moment, staying with pal from Bristol, Johnny Lightning, in a lovely self build house in the forested hills. Birds on the nearby Mount Nardi have included Olive-backed Oriole, Pale Yellow Robin, Topknot Pigeon, Green Catbird and Logrunner.

914 Musk Duck
915 Whistling Kite
916 Crested Shrike-Tit
917 Rufous Whistler
918 Australian Brush-Turkey
919 Brown Gerygone
920 Australian Hobby
921 Brown Cuckoo-Dove
922 Yellow-throated Scrub-Wren
923 Bassian Thrush
924 Noisy Pitta
925 Large-billed Scrub-Wren
926 Wonga Pigeon
927 Brown Honeyeater
928 Australian Pipit
929 Brush Cuckoo
930 Torresian Crow
931 Sooty Oystercatcher
932 Blue-faced Honeyeater
933 Swamp Harrier
934 Rainbow Bee-eater
935 Bar-shouldered Dove
936 Olive-backed Oriole
937 Pale Yellow Robin
938 Topknot Pigeon
939 Green Catbird
940 Logrunner
 
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Lappkrabben

Well-known member
Hi L & N

This is your Gr.Gr.Owl host in Lulea. I finally managed to get my computer skills to work so i can follow your trip through this sight. We have visited Jan & Anna a week ago on the way back from Oland on a bootcamp to get more skilled on ID of montagus harrier.

Great to see you have reached down under. Look out for cassowary ;-)

Cheers! /Mattias
 

Allen S. Moore

Well-known member
Great trip!

We then pressed on to Nimbin where we are at the moment, staying with pal from Bristol, Johnny Lightning, in a lovely self build house in the forested hills. Birds on the nearby Mount Nardi have included Olive-backed Oriole, Pale Yellow Robin, Topknot Pigeon, Green Catbird and Logrunner.

914 Musk Duck
915 Whistling Kite
916 Crested Shrike-Tit
917 Rufous Whistler
918 Australian Brush-Turkey
919 Brown Gerygone
920 Australian Hobby
921 Brown Cuckoo-Dove
922 Yellow-throated Scrub-Wren
923 Bassian Thrush
924 Noisy Pitta
925 Large-billed Scrub-Wren
926 Wonga Pigeon
927 Brown Honeyeater
928 Australian Pipit
929 Brush Cuckoo
930 Torresian Crow
931 Sooty Oystercatcher
932 Blue-faced Honeyeater
933 Swamp Harrier
934 Rainbow Bee-eater
935 Bar-shouldered Dove
936 Olive-backed Oriole
937 Pale Yellow Robin
938 Topknot Pigeon
939 Green Catbird
940 Logrunner

You're seeing some great birds. I'll be in Australia, albeit further N and W, in less than 3 months now.

Logrunner is a great name! Talking about names, was Johnny Lightning in a rock band?

Allen
 

halftwo

Wird Batcher
Hey, Allen, you beat me to it! Johnny Lightning - what an excellent name. Wonder if he knows Louis Cypher?
I'll be there in four months.
H
 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'
Made a booboo in last post, now think the Brush Cuckoo was a really washed out-looking Fan-tailed. Saw 2 Fan-tailed today and both were rather different, one being very pale. Sorry for being a dork.

Now made it Brisbane and seen a couple of goodies on the way. Bit rude to write it up now in the living room of our current hosts, so I better do it later.

Glad there's some reinforcements coming out here in a few months, and great to hear from you Mattias and Nicky says hi too. Hope you're all (Ural?) having a good year.

Hoping to visit Lammington and Sundown and Noosa and potter round Brisbane, so if anyone's got any recent gen on the goodies it could be of massive help. eg directions to the Ground Parrot/Grass owl spot in Noosa area, or Freckled Duck sightings. He says hopefully.

Ok they're cooking and stuff, so here goes the rest. DJ Johnny Lightning's pad produced a lovely Rose Robin and a Little Shrike-Thrush before we left. A stop on the coast north of Byron produced our first Red-backed Fairy-Wren and Little Friarbird, and then we called in on some distant relies of Nicky's in Kingscliffe who she had never met. Somewhat incredibly considering the rarity of birdos in Aus, George and Kath turned out to be a pair of them. Superb. Any ice breaking under these circumstances was aided by the sledgehammer of popping down to the local patch. My new relies even sorted me out with a lifer in the form of Pale-headed Rosella. I like them. These birds were at the Seagull Club area, c10km north of Kingscliffe, along with Fan-tailed Cuckoos , Varied Trillers, Rose Robins, Sacred Kingfisher, Striated Pardalotte, Brown Goshawk etc.

Today we popped in on the Eagleby wetlands just south of Brisbane, recommended by the relies, and here we scored my first Mangrove Honeyeater and other stuff including White-headed Stilts, Grey and Chestnut Teal, Comb-crested Jacana, Golden-headed Cisticola and Forest Kingfisher. This area looked excellent, and I hope we get a chance to visit it in early morning or evening before we leave the area.

So remove Brush Cuckoo and add

940 Fan-tailed Cuckoo
941 Rose Robin
942 Little Shrike-Thrush
943 Red-backed Fairy-Wren
944 Little Friarbird
945 Sacred Kingfisher
946 Varied Triller
947 PALE-HEADED ROSELLA
948 Chestnut-breasted Mannikin
949 Striated Pardalote
950 Glossy Ibis
951 Comb-crested Jacana
952 Forest Kingfisher
953 White-headed Stilt
954 Grey Teal
955 MANGROVE HONEYEATER
956 Mangrove Gerygone

and an unimaginably cute Masked Lapwing chick
 
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halftwo

Wird Batcher
Hi Larry,

I presume you have Wheatley and the map of the parrot area?
Just in case not, it shows a track on the right after a row of pylons - if you're going north along Cooloola Way. It says go to the log bridge & scan for parrots.

If this turns out to be out of date - let me know! Good luck - I'm getting itchy feet. (Now where did I put that ointment?)

H
 

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