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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Larry Sweetland" data-source="post: 1087351" data-attributes="member: 27337">Cheers Mike, funnilly enough it's your '91 trip report that's all I've got to go on ! That Hotel you stayed in's pretty posh now so we've checked into the Teddy Bear Backpacker's  and I've had an afternoon up as far as Fuhu so far. I'd really like to find this catchment trail from Wannian (Lady A etc if lucky). Anyone got clear directions to it ? Snow on the summit right now at the mo apparently, but we reckon on heading up there tomorrow afternoon to overnight, and walk down to the Tragopan area by the next night. Hope we can manage it ! Got a couple of id probs if anyone can help :1. At Leshan (near Emei Shan in south Sichuan) today a Riparia martin was abundant over the river and the only hirundine present. They looked consistantly considerably greyer than Sand Martin and always a touch paler, so I figured they were one of the subsp of Pale Martin. The breast band was pretty obvious however (though difficult to determine how bold exactly at range), and I'm unfamiliar with ijimae Sand Martin and what they look like. The conditions were constantly overcast too which would effect the colour. The vocals were quite Sand Martin-like , but lacked their most characteristic harsh loud churr, and had some less familiar more nasal buzzy notes. Anyone know what I "should be" seeing here just now, or have any advice on the id of these forms or how similar they do actually appear ?2. Niltava (female) at Emei Shan today.  Called regularly with a thick "tchk". Strongly rufous tail, less strongly (but still) rufous wings. Unds strongly fulvous-tinged, including throat, becoming whitish on vent. Normally revealed no white gorget until it stretched it's head once showing it had one ! Forecrown grey mergeing into browner hindcrown and buffier on cheeks. Again what am I supposed to be seeing here? I've seen Fukien reported in Winter and Vivid in Summer , and presumably Rufous-bellied may be possible.Thanks for any help on these.edit: by the way Mike, the Bush-Warbler was cocking it's tail like a mad thing and did have a grey super and unscaled buffish-utcvts. I was thrown a bit by the greyish-looking flanks though ! Reckon I'll armchair-it on the trip list as Brownish-flanked Bush-Warbler. Saw Yellowish-bellied today at the Leshan Buddah too.</blockquote>

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