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Message: <blockquote data-quote="deborah4" data-source="post: 1382735" data-attributes="member: 29880">I too was trying to work out why everyone thought it a relatively straightforward Reed, which was where I came in originally and also applying local knowledge of the area as well as impressions of gizz.I do apologise if I've somehow 'put you out'  ... you obviously didn't notice then not only had my original post been put back (10) but also didnt notice my subsequent post with the uploaded lightened picture to which Nick and several others responded, nor did you notice my last post (where I uploaded another pic).  PS I, like everybody else, don't mind at all being shot down on the basis of identifying criteria what makes for unpleasant ID threads at times, is the competitive comments that often go with it, that seek to undermine one's credibility simply to win an ID debate - whether those take the form of completely ignoring other people's participation in a thread,or referring to them as not being 'expert' enough to warrant respect for their opinions with either direct remarks or oblique ones.  This happens on a regular basis, the last time I believed was on the 'interesting egret' thread recently.   But I guess the proof is always in the pudding.  Funny it seems the people who don't do that are the real experts.</blockquote>