I wonder if anyone would like to give an opinion regarding this Buzzard ID in the South of Portugal
Harry Hussey said:Well, such features as the pale area on the underwing greater coverts would appear to exclude even cirtensis Long-legged Buzzard, which looks a lot more like Common Buzzard than nominate rufinus does
Well, such features as the pale area on the underwing greater coverts would appear to exclude even cirtensis Long-legged Buzzard, Harry
Simon Wates said:Rui's first photo shows the structure of a Long-legged to me - unless I'm misjudging it ,)
Tconzemi said:Honnestly I have some major problems to follow here
Cirtensis and buteo are sometimes really diificult to separate given the enormous variability of buteo and now we are starting to see hybrids everywere!?
To me these birds are buteo and I would not even try to rule out hybrids as these birds must be unidentifiable in the field
I agree with you Tom, the enormous variability of buteo is major problem on cirtensis identification, but what about cirtensis variability?
However there is something on the chick/juvenile jizz, mainly head and neck, that I am not able to fit it in buteo, so I really would like an opinion from others!
tconzemi said:It would be most interesting to compare populations in Southern Iberia and Northern Iberia and to look for several key features in both populations, surely more interesting than debating individuals.