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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3612680" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p>Laurent, you sure keep the "kettle boiling" and my interest awake ...</p><p></p><p><a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=NmIKAQAAMAAJ&q=%22caixana%22&dq=%22caixana%22&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjH29ie55DWAhWsJ5oKHdIGDGMQ6AEIQzAE" target="_blank"><u>Here</u></a>´s the only new link (that I´ve found) were "C<u>ai</u>xána" has a direct connection to "C<u>aui</u>chana, Kauichana, Kawichanes" ...</p><p></p><p>What it´s telling us/pointing at? I haven´t got a clue!</p><p></p><p>Also see <a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=2MwK6xO5H3wC&pg=PA171&dq=%22caixana%22+Latin&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjth93_6JDWAhVsApoKHRcRByYQ6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=%22caixana%22&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, or could <em>caixana</em> possibly be from derived from <em>Caiuechana</em> (<em>Caixana</em>), <a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=ixSrqx1Bbo8C&q=%22Rio+Japurá+Caiuechana%22&dq=%22Rio+Japurá+Caiuechana%22&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwidjZOG6pDWAhWEDpoKHbg6CeMQ6AEIMDAB" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, as in "<em>Rio Japurá Caiuechana</em>" (Caixana), abother name for "<em>rios Japurá Tocantins</em>" ... !?</p><p></p><p>Hovever, even if the name "<em>Rio Japurá Caiuechana</em>" could, might (in whatever context) include the full stretch of the Rio Japurá (<a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Japurá" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) we are still far, far away from the westermost parts where we today find the Cactus Parakeet subspecies (<em>Conorus</em>/<em>Aratinga</em>) <em>Eupsittula cactorum caixana</em>. According to <em>HBW</em> its westernmost distribution is in the Eastern parts of the State Maranhão. </p><p></p><p>But ... could it be as simple as the OD of "<em>Macropus caixana</em>" instead was talking for the Brazilian state Tocantins (<u>not</u> the river, close to Peru)? The State Tocantins (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocantins" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) is located directly southwest of the two States Maranhão and Piahuí!</p><p></p><p>Suddenly I think it would be very intersting to know which one of today's species is equal of von Spix's "<em>Macropus caixana</em>". Maybe it wasn´t found in that certain area, in the northwestermost of Brazil, where we find the Caixana/Cauxiana Indian Tribe at all! Couldn´t von Spix's "<em>Habitat in sylvis fluvii Tonantins</em>" also be read as "Inhabits river forests in Tonantins"? That would suddenly move the Type location far more to the East in (Central) Brazil!?</p><p></p><p>I´ve tried to understand the synonymity, but this Cuckoo seems far from easy to figure out. Synonyms of synonyms, ending up ... where?</p><p><span style="color: White">--</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3612680, member: 113430"] Laurent, you sure keep the "kettle boiling" and my interest awake ... [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=NmIKAQAAMAAJ&q=%22caixana%22&dq=%22caixana%22&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjH29ie55DWAhWsJ5oKHdIGDGMQ6AEIQzAE"][U]Here[/U][/URL]´s the only new link (that I´ve found) were "C[U]ai[/U]xána" has a direct connection to "C[U]aui[/U]chana, Kauichana, Kawichanes" ... What it´s telling us/pointing at? I haven´t got a clue! Also see [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=2MwK6xO5H3wC&pg=PA171&dq=%22caixana%22+Latin&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjth93_6JDWAhVsApoKHRcRByYQ6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=%22caixana%22&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL], or could [I]caixana[/I] possibly be from derived from [I]Caiuechana[/I] ([I]Caixana[/I]), [URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=ixSrqx1Bbo8C&q=%22Rio+Japurá+Caiuechana%22&dq=%22Rio+Japurá+Caiuechana%22&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwidjZOG6pDWAhWEDpoKHbg6CeMQ6AEIMDAB"][U]here[/U][/URL], as in "[I]Rio Japurá Caiuechana[/I]" (Caixana), abother name for "[I]rios Japurá Tocantins[/I]" ... !? Hovever, even if the name "[I]Rio Japurá Caiuechana[/I]" could, might (in whatever context) include the full stretch of the Rio Japurá ([URL="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Japurá"][U]here[/U][/URL]) we are still far, far away from the westermost parts where we today find the Cactus Parakeet subspecies ([I]Conorus[/I]/[I]Aratinga[/I]) [I]Eupsittula cactorum caixana[/I]. According to [I]HBW[/I] its westernmost distribution is in the Eastern parts of the State Maranhão. But ... could it be as simple as the OD of "[I]Macropus caixana[/I]" instead was talking for the Brazilian state Tocantins ([U]not[/U] the river, close to Peru)? The State Tocantins ([URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocantins"][U]here[/U][/URL]) is located directly southwest of the two States Maranhão and Piahuí! Suddenly I think it would be very intersting to know which one of today's species is equal of von Spix's "[I]Macropus caixana[/I]". Maybe it wasn´t found in that certain area, in the northwestermost of Brazil, where we find the Caixana/Cauxiana Indian Tribe at all! Couldn´t von Spix's "[I]Habitat in sylvis fluvii Tonantins[/I]" also be read as "Inhabits river forests in Tonantins"? That would suddenly move the Type location far more to the East in (Central) Brazil!? I´ve tried to understand the synonymity, but this Cuckoo seems far from easy to figure out. Synonyms of synonyms, ending up ... where? [COLOR="White"]--[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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