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Can anybody help me to ID these two species? (1 Viewer)

Spadge1

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Hello again.

Since I started to take bird photos at the beginning of this lockdown my novice bird ID skills have improved hugely but I'm well aware that I'm still a complete novice in terms both photography and identifying birds. Can anyone here help me with these two please. They were both taken on a mountain in the Dee Valley near Llangollen in north Wales. Both birds were smaller than a blackbird. I'm thinking that one of them maybe a Pipit of some sort (Meadow, Rock?) Many thanks in advance for anyone who can help.
 

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