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Message: <blockquote data-quote="deborah4" data-source="post: 1382391" data-attributes="member: 29880">Well I feel like the rest of you but I am trying to be extremely compromising and trying very hard not to let this situation get any worse, since I know it's the birds that will loose out if my neighbour effectively lays down the articles of association ie. that I can be outvoted by her and the other 4 freeholders with a share of the freehold - which will happen if we can't compromise simply because that will be how everyone sees as the only ''democratic'' way to resolve the issue as well as being the 'legal' way to settle any freeholder disputes.Anyway her reply to my earlier email as follows (with some personal references edited out). Btw: said feeders were at least 40 foot away from her bedroom on the first floor.    At least it has Soap Opera entertainment value if nothing else!Hi Deborah, I was equally as stunned to see that you had taken the 'law upon yourself' and just went ahead putting up more bird feeders - again opposite the bedrooms - without having the courtesy to mention it first and asking whether anyone had any objections. Particularly as you knew that I might have an issue bearing in mind problems with this in the past. We agreed at the last meeting, that any changes being made to garden, you would consult with us all first. But that doesn't seen to be the case...  If you dont consult first, dont expect me to extend you the same courtesy. My window sill is already getting covered in excrement. Which is really annoying bearing in mind we've spent over £10,000 on painting. It all needs cleaning off already. Which really isnt a job I'm looking forward to. And I dont want the problem getting even worse. I really dont' mind one or two feeders, if they are strategically placed so they do not encourage the pigeons from perching on my bedrrom windows. And I appreciate your efforts in buying feeders with ledges. But in the last week or so the situation seems to have resurrected itself.....I'm not prepared to put up with pigeon excrement all over my bedroom windowsill on an on-going basis, so let's review how it goes over the next week or so. Thank you for offering to pay for window boxes, but my understanding is that its against the lease. So I'm not sure that is an option. But let's discuss at the meeting on 26th.******My reply - (So, there may be a willingness on her side to compromise only if it means she never gets pigeons on her window sill - how on earth can I guarantee that unless we use a perch deterrent?)Hi *****I really do sympathise with the issue regarding the pigeon mess on your window sill and as such am obviously trying my best here. Regarding the lease issue, since we effectively own our own windows/sills (ie. these are actually excluded from the commonhold property as far as I'm aware but I will check up on that), I'm not sure how much that would be an issue, especially if we as the freeholders agree on something that would effectively end an ongoing nuisance - certainly pest-spikes would not contravene the lease, although i would have thought a few geraniums would look nicer!) but if you are unwilling to take this step, there's not much i can do. Please believe me, I am just as annoyed about any pigeons coming into the garden and making a mess as you are about them being on the window ledge at times! So we really are on the same side here. As such, I really do think we should try and sort this out between ourselves rather than dragging everyone else into to it which I think would escalate things.. I don't want a 'face to face argument any less than a telephone one and certainly do not want us to argue this out front of the others during a meeting where we already have much to discuss. Obviously over the summer birds do not need feeding and this winter I placed feeders as you requested last winter, not on the line but well into the bushes/trees. I agree it hasn't deterred the pigeons completely so am happy to try different tactics. The pigeons are in fact getting very little from their scavenging but they unfortunately are good at following feeding flocks of birds around. Again the only thing I can suggest that would work completely is to find some way to prevent them from landing on your window sill - I will contact the RSPB and see if they can suggest anything. I will also contact the Council since pigeons are a problem all over the City regardless of whether or not they are being fed. At work we have some 25 pigeons roosting/perching on windows etc and absolutely no one feeds them but we have found spikes to be a good deterrent, the design of which is very unobtrusive. I do think if I am willing to compromise on feeding the birds from which I actually derive an enormous amount of enjoyment as well as it being a necessity, perhaps you would be willing to explore ways of preventing them from settling on your window sill? Finally, I am coming rapidly to the conclusion I'd rather not live here anymore anyway but with the property market as it is, I may well have to wait another 12 months before putting my flat on the market. Until then, hopefully we can continue to work together in a neighbourly way to make living here as unstressful as possible for all of us. Deborah Ps Let me know if you want me to pay your window cleaner extra money to wash your bedroom window ledge down on a monthly basis, I'd be happy to do that for you as well as continuing to find ways of reducing numbers that come into the garden</blockquote>

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