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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shaggy2070" data-source="post: 1795053" data-attributes="member: 46652">I bought the Canon 450D brand new early last year for £475 then got the Canon 400 5.6 L  lens (which a lot of people say is one the best birding lens there is) this year second hand for £800.I would have thought you could get a second hand 450D for around £300 now and there has been a couple of second hand Canon 400 lenses recently for around £750, which would be pretty close to your budget.BTW I'm by no means an expert in these sort of things, just happy snapper who enjoys photographing birds o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />.Here's a few shots with the 450D and 400 5.6 L</blockquote>