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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KorHaan" data-source="post: 1883114" data-attributes="member: 49910">Thanks, Norman!I got all excited when I checked the link and saw 8x58 roof prism binoculars with a PLASTIC housing. Ideal owling bins! Eager to find out the weight, I was more than a little disappointed when I noticed it to be 1520 grams!! What a bummer! How can that be?! Surely not the weight of the lenses alone? When I read plastic, I presume it's lightweight, so I thought something of a little less than 1 kg. That would have been perfect. The porro prism bins were 1350 grams for the 8x56 Nobilem and 1250 grams for the 7x50 Nobilem. Man, these are heavy mothers! I just don't want these around my neck at night, going owling. The prices are favourable, though, in the 600-700 € range, but still...I had hoped I could finally forget ever getting the Zeiss ClassiC 8x56, but it's still lurking in the background. :eek!:As far as your experience with the 15x and 18x Canon IS's, I'd say it's an accurate description that you gave. These bins really come into their own in open spaces, though I found I could use my 18x50's really well in close up circumstances too; I wouldn't have got my Barred Warbler tick on Texel last year, if I hadn't had my 18x50's ready. But the big Canons are still more of a substitute for a scope than actual all-round birding bins.I've found the 18x50's especially useful when sitting down, elbows resting on my knees. Then there is nothing in binocular land that can touch them.Period.It's wonderful to have these in a rucksack for casual use, along with more all-round bins around your neck. You'd be surprised too by the amount of detail they give in dusk or dawn situations. The image of the 18x50's in the dark is dim, but I can see details I can't see with 8x bins. The 15x's may be even better.Best regards,Ronald</blockquote>

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