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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3918002" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p>Welcome to BirdForum, Rafael! And what an entrance!! :t:</p><p></p><p>Many thanks for sharing the facts regarding your family, and great to know that I managed to organize most of the many pieces in this puzzle, that I wasn't all that wrong. Your reply will definitely improve my MS (of Swedish Common Bird names), and its entry regarding the Olive Tanager (<em>Habia</em>) <em>Chlorothraupis carmioli</em>, a k a Carmiol's Tanager (alt. <em>carmiolkardinal</em>, in Swedish). </p><p></p><p>According to my MS, as of today (without yet having edited it, based on your reply), they [<em>i.e.</em> Juliius Carnigohl (the future Julian/Julián Carmiol), and his four (motherless) children (incl. little Franz, the "Francisco" to be) as well as Julius's brothers Franksius and Robert, together with a small group of naturalist, including Alexander von Frantzius (1821–1877) and Karl Hoffmann (1823–1859)] arrived (on the 14th of December 1853) in the Port <em>Greytown</em> (today's San Juan de Nicaragua, earlier known as <em>San Juan del Norte</em>), in SE Nicaragua, and from there the Carnigohl family crossed the border into (their goal, and the whole reason for their trip) Costa Rica, where they arrived in January 1854. ... and onwards [... into the Annals of Natural History (where they became known, and somewhat famous, as Carmiol)].</p><p></p><p>If needed/necessary, I will return with more questions onwards (whenever time allows, a bit too busy at work right now), whenever I'm about to give my good old MS its final touch.</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p><p></p><p>Björn</p><p><span style="color: White">--</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3918002, member: 113430"] Welcome to BirdForum, Rafael! And what an entrance!! :t: Many thanks for sharing the facts regarding your family, and great to know that I managed to organize most of the many pieces in this puzzle, that I wasn't all that wrong. Your reply will definitely improve my MS (of Swedish Common Bird names), and its entry regarding the Olive Tanager ([I]Habia[/I]) [I]Chlorothraupis carmioli[/I], a k a Carmiol's Tanager (alt. [I]carmiolkardinal[/I], in Swedish). According to my MS, as of today (without yet having edited it, based on your reply), they [[I]i.e.[/I] Juliius Carnigohl (the future Julian/Julián Carmiol), and his four (motherless) children (incl. little Franz, the "Francisco" to be) as well as Julius's brothers Franksius and Robert, together with a small group of naturalist, including Alexander von Frantzius (1821–1877) and Karl Hoffmann (1823–1859)] arrived (on the 14th of December 1853) in the Port [I]Greytown[/I] (today's San Juan de Nicaragua, earlier known as [I]San Juan del Norte[/I]), in SE Nicaragua, and from there the Carnigohl family crossed the border into (their goal, and the whole reason for their trip) Costa Rica, where they arrived in January 1854. ... and onwards [... into the Annals of Natural History (where they became known, and somewhat famous, as Carmiol)]. If needed/necessary, I will return with more questions onwards (whenever time allows, a bit too busy at work right now), whenever I'm about to give my good old MS its final touch. Cheers! Björn [COLOR="White"]--[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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