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<blockquote data-quote="Carmiol" data-source="post: 3918985" data-attributes="member: 151271"><p>This, I think is clear beyond any reasonable doubt. He was born on 2 Jan 1817. I didn't understand the "né" part between the mothers name and the last name, but her mother was Hanna Johanne Charlotte Grassnick, so this is clear. Every single record is from SANKT NIKOLAI, BERLIN STADT, BRANDENBURG, PRUSSIA, including his baptism, so I can assume he was born there. Even in the biographies of Rohrmoser and Hoffmann, they talk about Carmiol as a fellow German, so I think the Danish Berlin is safely out of the question.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This, got me completely confused but now I see it's quite a discovery! Per my family's lore, Christian Friedrich Julius Carnigohl Grassnick (Carmiol senior) came to Costa Rica as a widower, a few months after the death of his wife Charlotte Friederike Auguste Prössel, who died 31 of August of 1950. Again, by my family's lore, he came alone, with 4 of his sons.</p><p></p><p>However, I see that he arrived to Costa Rica on January 1954, so it was NOT a few months later. Looking over in these records, I did find that Carmiol senior, had three more daughters between 1952 and 1955 with a woman named Susanne Amalie Reinicke (she was completely unknown for my family until today). I looked into Susanne, and she was born in SANKT NIKOLAI, BERLIN STADT, BRANDENBURG, PRUSSIA (Im starting to believe that Carmiol senior never lived anywhere else in Germany but that town, before moving to Costa Rica). Now, and here is the interesting part, Susanne died in 1955, in Lepanto, Puntarenas, Costa Rica. So unless she teleported herself there, she made the trip to Costa Rica with Carmiol senior (although apparently, completely forgotten from any historical records).</p><p></p><p>Carmiol senior did have a known wife after that, Paula Flores García, a Costa Rican woman, married 16 Feb. 1957, with which he had another 7 daughters.</p><p></p><p>All this makes sense to me, because all the known Carmiol family stem from Carmiol senior's first marriage (Augusta Proessel). Now it is clear that this is because with his second and third wife, he had only daughters, 10 total, losing the family name the next generation.</p><p></p><p>So in summary, 3 marriages, 16 children, he kept himself busy...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Carmiol, post: 3918985, member: 151271"] This, I think is clear beyond any reasonable doubt. He was born on 2 Jan 1817. I didn't understand the "né" part between the mothers name and the last name, but her mother was Hanna Johanne Charlotte Grassnick, so this is clear. Every single record is from SANKT NIKOLAI, BERLIN STADT, BRANDENBURG, PRUSSIA, including his baptism, so I can assume he was born there. Even in the biographies of Rohrmoser and Hoffmann, they talk about Carmiol as a fellow German, so I think the Danish Berlin is safely out of the question. This, got me completely confused but now I see it's quite a discovery! Per my family's lore, Christian Friedrich Julius Carnigohl Grassnick (Carmiol senior) came to Costa Rica as a widower, a few months after the death of his wife Charlotte Friederike Auguste Prössel, who died 31 of August of 1950. Again, by my family's lore, he came alone, with 4 of his sons. However, I see that he arrived to Costa Rica on January 1954, so it was NOT a few months later. Looking over in these records, I did find that Carmiol senior, had three more daughters between 1952 and 1955 with a woman named Susanne Amalie Reinicke (she was completely unknown for my family until today). I looked into Susanne, and she was born in SANKT NIKOLAI, BERLIN STADT, BRANDENBURG, PRUSSIA (Im starting to believe that Carmiol senior never lived anywhere else in Germany but that town, before moving to Costa Rica). Now, and here is the interesting part, Susanne died in 1955, in Lepanto, Puntarenas, Costa Rica. So unless she teleported herself there, she made the trip to Costa Rica with Carmiol senior (although apparently, completely forgotten from any historical records). Carmiol senior did have a known wife after that, Paula Flores García, a Costa Rican woman, married 16 Feb. 1957, with which he had another 7 daughters. All this makes sense to me, because all the known Carmiol family stem from Carmiol senior's first marriage (Augusta Proessel). Now it is clear that this is because with his second and third wife, he had only daughters, 10 total, losing the family name the next generation. So in summary, 3 marriages, 16 children, he kept himself busy... [/QUOTE]
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