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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gretchen" data-source="post: 1626425" data-attributes="member: 70591">Too warm autumn!Yesterday I had a nice chance to meet up with China Birds and Xiao Ming to look at birds in Beidaihe.  Unfortunately the weather was poor - rather warm, and wind from the south, and I only had a few hours to be out.  However, the good part of being a beginner is that every bird is worth studying.  There was a nice chance to see several Far Eastern Curlews, and I'm getting a little more confident about telling them from their cousins the Eurasian Curlews.  I guess it was an adequate day (in others' estimation?) for ducks - I think at least 8 kinds spotted, but for me still a lot to learn.  Still, I'm getting more confident on grebes and mergansers (not ducks), am surer about spot-billed (yes, very basic), and could recognize the Northern Shoveler which Nick found; several others are becoming separable. It was also very nice to see a Common Coot (my first) and a red-flanked bluetail (my first male) - a very handsome bird!I guess you will be able to find more details about the whole day on ChinaBirds' year list. Does fall seem to be long and warm where you are?Gretchen</blockquote>