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<blockquote data-quote="Alexis Powell" data-source="post: 1546987" data-attributes="member: 5327"><p>I agree with your overall argument in this and your subsequent post in this thread, but it seems to me that most products that carry lifetime warrantees are the sorts of things that consumers _are_ likely to care about 10+ years into the future. For example, when it comes to premium binoculars, 10 years is not a long time. Here are a few binos that I've owned for over 10 years:</p><p></p><p>Swarovski 8.5x42 EL</p><p>Nikon 10x42 LX</p><p>Nikon 8x32 SE</p><p>Zeiss 7x42 Classic</p><p>B&L 7x26 Custom</p><p>Leica 8x32 BA Ultra/Trinovid</p><p></p><p>Note that these are all still current models or are unsurpassed (or marginally surpassed) by current (or slightly modified versions of these) models. I still care about these binos quite a bit. Same story with other "mature technology" products--for example my lifetime-warranteed Litespeed road bike (maybe obsolete for the Tour de France?). Side comment on differences among companies' abilities to honor their warrantees--Zeiss and Leica have good track records for keeping parts for repair around for a long time. Other companies, like Bushnell, provide lifetime warrantees but make no effort to keep parts for repair around for more than 5 years since a model is out of production. I recently had to replace the frame on my Electra commuter bike (due to a crack caused by a manufacturing flaw) and was glad that it was not only covered under warranty, but that a ware-housed new old-stock replacement was available. Electra doesn't have a current "equivalent" model, and I couldn't find a current equivalent from another brand for less than ~$1200. </p><p></p><p>I'm also glad that some of my old stuff that does not have a lifetime warranty was at least designed with repairability in mind (not a design criterion for many products these days) because in many cases, there are not new (or better) equivalents, especially when those products are part of a system. For example, if my Nikon FA and F4 film cameras (which are definitely not obsolete for my purposes, despite the fact that I also own a D700) were to fail, I'd have to repair them or find them on the used market. Come to think of it, a lot of my stuff (which I care about!) is more than 10 years old--my TV, my stereo, my laser printer. Heck, even my cell phone is now 5 years old, and though I've no worries about finding a suitable replacement, I've no interest in doing so until forced to by its demise <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>--AP</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alexis Powell, post: 1546987, member: 5327"] I agree with your overall argument in this and your subsequent post in this thread, but it seems to me that most products that carry lifetime warrantees are the sorts of things that consumers _are_ likely to care about 10+ years into the future. For example, when it comes to premium binoculars, 10 years is not a long time. Here are a few binos that I've owned for over 10 years: Swarovski 8.5x42 EL Nikon 10x42 LX Nikon 8x32 SE Zeiss 7x42 Classic B&L 7x26 Custom Leica 8x32 BA Ultra/Trinovid Note that these are all still current models or are unsurpassed (or marginally surpassed) by current (or slightly modified versions of these) models. I still care about these binos quite a bit. Same story with other "mature technology" products--for example my lifetime-warranteed Litespeed road bike (maybe obsolete for the Tour de France?). Side comment on differences among companies' abilities to honor their warrantees--Zeiss and Leica have good track records for keeping parts for repair around for a long time. Other companies, like Bushnell, provide lifetime warrantees but make no effort to keep parts for repair around for more than 5 years since a model is out of production. I recently had to replace the frame on my Electra commuter bike (due to a crack caused by a manufacturing flaw) and was glad that it was not only covered under warranty, but that a ware-housed new old-stock replacement was available. Electra doesn't have a current "equivalent" model, and I couldn't find a current equivalent from another brand for less than ~$1200. I'm also glad that some of my old stuff that does not have a lifetime warranty was at least designed with repairability in mind (not a design criterion for many products these days) because in many cases, there are not new (or better) equivalents, especially when those products are part of a system. For example, if my Nikon FA and F4 film cameras (which are definitely not obsolete for my purposes, despite the fact that I also own a D700) were to fail, I'd have to repair them or find them on the used market. Come to think of it, a lot of my stuff (which I care about!) is more than 10 years old--my TV, my stereo, my laser printer. Heck, even my cell phone is now 5 years old, and though I've no worries about finding a suitable replacement, I've no interest in doing so until forced to by its demise :) --AP [/QUOTE]
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