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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lashinala" data-source="post: 1597258" data-attributes="member: 68148">Just some off the wall comments:James- I could see a point in the future where some idiot fundy denies that geat apes even ever existed if they went extinct, and few would have the resources  to prove it as they are fairly rare.Paul- the US has too many tigers already, acccording to some. Elephants are bred here comfortably in large numbers. Pandas would be easy to add in some remote areas and would be a huge draw. Think of North America (or any large area really) as a large Noah's ark and you begin to see the picture. If we raised pandas here, China may ask for some  back after a century or 2...after restoring wild areas...we have the resources and the will for now and they don't.  Countries mature slowly and get 'stuck on stupid' because money talks, US is a text book example in 1900s...but eventually money moves just like animals do...towards a diversity of labor (just like biodiversity) and lazy people end up in the same place as lazy deer...looking for an easier niche to survive in. Usually poaching is the problem, not hunting. And hunting for bushmeat needs constant regulation, which is expensive. Put the pandas somewhere else? Impefect solution but seems reasonable.Nightranger-in the end, animals have the same right as we do...to struggle for existance. All other rights disappear under some circumstance or another, humans just agree to be civil (usually).  We can present our rights all we want in a natural disaster...fire,volcanic eruption,tsunami,hurricane,etc. but the survivor knows when to just get out of the way. Its a human tsunami in China...get the panda out of the way.</blockquote>

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