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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Johnny Allan" data-source="post: 1601933" data-attributes="member: 60985">Whilst I agree that we should not give up on the Giant Panda as it's a recognisable symbol of wildlife conservation, I can understand how Chris Packham could be pessimistic about the situation. The Chinese population continues to grow.People talk endlessly about global warming and climate change when the real threat to the planets wildlife and environment is uncontrolled, unabating and unsustainable population growth. Even if climate change wasn't caused by man, the effects of it will be at least exacerbated by unabating population growth.Every time I see a new wildlife programme, for example the latest one on Papua New Guinea, the programme invariably mentions man's destruction of habitat and wildlife. Papua New Guinea is no different and logging is now taking place, twenty miles from where new animal species are just being found. The recent wildlife programme "South Pacific" ended with large international fishing fleets hoovering up the ocean.I'd be happy if governments, wildlife and other conservation bodies spent one tenth of the time they spend on climate change, realising that uncontrolled, unabating and unsustainable population growth will destroy the world's wildlife and environment. However, I suppose there's not much political mileage in suggesting that we have smaller families whereas they can tax us on carbon emissions etc and pretend to be green. In the meantime, we are documenting the destruction of our wildlife and environment.Johnny Allanps we're having a similar problem with habitat grabbing at my local birding patch, Beddington Farmlands. What should be wet grassland for a nature reserve, is under a "temporary" re-cycling plant which they are trying to make permanent. Vested interests are trying to grab more Metropolitan Open Land from this designated Metropolitan Site of Importance for Nature Conservation for waste disposal. Bigger population, more waste.If anyone would like to help in our fight against this and to establish a major urban nature reserve, go to:<a href="http://beddingtonfarmlands.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://beddingtonfarmlands.org.uk/</a>And click on "South London Waste Plan"Many thanks</blockquote>

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