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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Javier Elorriaga" data-source="post: 1866027" data-attributes="member: 86348">Hi John and others,Both the paper in Quercus and BB are writen by the same authors (Antonio Roman Muñoz and me) and refer to the same breeding event. The paper in Quercus adds some info on the wintering of the species in the area as well. John, the 35 observation of 2008 belong to the study are that  we describe in the paper. Yes there are many unprospected areas, remember that a big extent of the Strait of Gibraltar is covered by private lands which are not accesible even for researchers. We are monitoring the developement of this species in Spain and we will keep publishing any relevant findings on this interesting species for which there are still many aspects to clarify regarding identification and taxonomy. You can contact my in my personal email if you want any further information.With best regards,Javi Elorriaga<a href="mailto:javielor@hotmail.com">javielor@hotmail.com</a>PD: John, we met each other some time ago. It was in La Janda, I was alone driving a white van with the Sticker "I brake for birds", you were there with several friends, and we talk about the lesser kestrels in Jimena.</blockquote>