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Collins Bird Guide 2nd Ed; Reviewed (1 Viewer)

Doctor Twitchings

Active member
First of all congratulations to John Cantelo for not only being the first to submit a detailed review of this guide, but also on being 'spot on' with everything he mentioned.

I have been looking forward to seeing the 2nd Edition of the Collins Bird Guide ever since I heard there would be one - perhaps 8 years ago! It has been a long wait, but on the whole well worth it. Simply this is the book that everyone in Europe that is interested in Birds should own. It is by far the best field guide to European birds, and is far better than the 1st Edition. Anyone comparing this one with the first edition will quickly want to retire their old copy!

There are many plus points to this book, including: Overall size and design (it really is a beautiful book), Lars Svensson writing the text (a tad conservative but he would be my No.1 choice), superb artwork by Killian Mullarney and Zan Zetterstrom (making up a formidable team), 'a significent contribution' by the late great Peter Grant - in fact this edition is dedicated to his memory, more pages than the original, a huge amount of information between the covers, better and more 'crisper' printing, the 'stunning' quality of most of the plates, good layout and design with plates facing text, many new plates and many 'much improved' plates, better maps, more species and races covered, the calendar now printed in the introduction to Waders, and now the American passerines are up to the same standard as the rest of the book.

What we all want is a guide with acurate illustrations, and no other field guide to birds has illustrations to match this one in my opinion. In the first edition there were a few that were a little disappointing, but this book puts a lot right. Many of the plates have had a juggle, this has resulted in many given more space, other illustrations from the first edition reproduced bigger, others re-arranged differently on the same plate, and others placed along side more similar species. The new plates are really excellent, and my favourites are: Short-eared, Long-eared and Marsh Owl - such a perfect plate (three species illustrated exquisitely on the right hand side of the spread with plenty of 'breathing space' and text on the left hand side with the maps), Yellow-browed, Hume's Leaf, Pallas's, Dusky and Radde's Warbler is another prety much perfectly executed plate (and the Radde's is superb), Sparrowhawk and Goshawk (now having twice the space as in the 1st edition), the new illustrations for Red-breasted and Taiga Flycatcher, Chiffchaffs, Eagle Owl, the North American Thrushes, and Red-backed,
Isabelline, Turkestan and Brown Shrikes. But there is plenty more superb artwork to savour in this amazing book. Really pleased that now the treatment of the Gulls has been expanded, and we now have full treatments for American Herring, Caspian (hooray) and Armenian, while Baltic and Heuglin's get fuller treatment within Lesser Black-backed, and Yellow-legged has been given more space.

The vast majority of the plates are near perfect, but there are others that, in my opinion, could have been improved. Considering the very high standards of this guide I was surprised that the pages featuring Mallard, Red-legged Partridge, Little Ringed Plover, Bee Eater, Linnet, Trumpeter Finch and Yellowhammer were not given the make over. I was quite disappointed that the Redpolls were untouched, and surprised that there is still no illustration for sinensis Cormorant. The new plate featuring vagrant wildfowl is too cramped as still are the pages featuring Ross's Gull, Collared Dove and Hen Harrier. This second edition is about 50 pages thicker (although you hardly notice this), I would have liked to have seen a few more pages so that the few cramped plates could have been given a little more 'breathing space'. In my copy there are just a few plates that are printed a little too dark, the plate featuring Hen, Montagu's and a not very pallid Pallid Harrier being a good example.

Also, I'm not all that keen the sections at the rear of the book featuring Vagrants, Accidentals and Introduced / Escaped birds. The accidentals couldn't really be illustrated but I thought that the birds mentioned in the other two sections should at least have an illustration. In the Vagrants section Wilson's and Swinhoe's Snipe are glaring omissions (big white space on page), and we also lack drawings for Dwarf Bittern, Green-backed Heron, Willet, Morning Dove, Cedar Waxwing, Siberian Blue Robin, Eastern-crowned Warbler (ouch) and Scarlet Tanager. There are 12 species without an illustration in the 'Introduced and Escapes' section. The only typo I've come across so far is the Nile Walley Sunbird!

Despite my few minor grumbles, this really is one heck of a book. Every birder in the region will want to own one. The design, layout and quality of the artwork are so good. The price is very reasonable and represents good value for money. In fact you just can't go wrong buying this book as it is a pretty stunning achievement. Thanks to Lars, Killian, Dan, and the late Peter Grant, this region surely has THE best field guide.:t:
 
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citrinella

Well-known member
Wonderful! Unfortunately, although my mum's still a year away from 81, I reckon all the species would just look like blurry LBJs to her until another large-format edition is published...

Richard

Ah, but will there ever be a large format edition. The nearest I have had to a clear answer seems to be No.

Pity, I was waiting for that.

Mike.
 

stonechat1

New member
Yesterday I got a mail that the book will be finaly published in german in spring 2011!!!!

Can´t wait such long and wanted buy it at wildsounds.com.
I tried a few times but have troubles with it, maybe one can help me please.
Thanks in advance,
Roman
 
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screaming piha

Well-known member
The book is superb. I am in awe of the writers and artists (and the editors).

Fire the proof-reader I reckon.

Yeah, two letters misplaced from 450 pages of translated text. Terrible job. Recall and burn it along with the editorial staff. Shame that what would have been the best field guide ever produced for any region of the planet is rendered completely unusable because of a W and a U.

It is proofreader, by the way...
 

israel

Well-known member
Yesterday I got a mail that the book will be finaly published in german in spring 2011!!!!

Can´t wait such long and wanted buy it at birdsounds.com.
I tried a few times but have troubles with it, maybe one can help me please.
Thanks in advance,
Roman
Try ordering from Amazon U K.They do international deliveries.
 

stonechat1

New member
Try ordering from Amazon U K.They do international deliveries.

Thanks Israel, I did try it today once more by Wildsounds.com and today it worked by the first time, strange. Maybe they had yesterday some problems...

However, I´m happy that I`ll get my copy soon
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Richard Klim

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Asio owls

The new plates are really excellent, and my favourites are: Short-eared, Long-eared and Marsh Owl - such a perfect plate (three species illustrated exquisitely on the right hand side of the spread with plenty of 'breathing space' and text on the left hand side with the maps)...
That plate is definitely a huge improvement on the first edition, which had some shockingly exaggerated tones and colours (in my copy anyway).

Richard
 

ajaybee

Member
Coming back to birding early last year after many years of just general wildlife interest I made do with my tattered old Collins Field Guide circa 1970 knowing this was due out shortly. When my copy arrived yesterday I was staggered by the amount of information/illustrations crammed into the guide. I'm sure it will meet all my needs for years to come. £20 well spent. It did convince me though that I needed an eye test.
 

Swissboy

Sempach, Switzerland
Supporter
Switzerland
Yesterday I got a mail that the book will be finaly published in german in spring 2011!!!!

.........

How could they possibly wait this long!? Somebody must have either slept or just can't see the value for birders. My suspicion, however, they may still have too many of the first edition left. Good thing one can get by with an English edition as well.

I have the US edition on order as that should be the first in soft cover. I wonder whether they will have the snipes in there then.

By the way, Roman, how did you find out? I am still waiting for an answer to my inquiry.
 

Edward

Umimmak
My copy arrived this evening and I've been neglecting my wife and children ever since. I can only echo the other glowing enthusiastic reviews given above. An already superb book was made even better and the team behind it deserves all the accolades it gets. Yes, improvements can be always be made (from an Icelandic perspective, Water Rails are sadly no longer widespread residents in Iceland as the maps suggest) but the standard for field guides has been lifted another notch or two.
 
Arrived today. Had a good scan through and wasn't let down. Gull treatment is excellent. Glad KM has done the North American birds this time. Often revisions and additions can appear "clunky" but they have done a fantastic job to make the changes seamless. Pedants may bemoan the less than full description of subspecies found within the geographical area - but I tend to regard this as being down to a lack of space rather than rigour.
THE definitive guide for the next ten years (or until 3rd edition).
 
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stonechat1

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By the way, Roman, how did you find out? I am still waiting for an answer to my inquiry.

I got a newsletter from www.media-natur.de but you can read the info on their website too.
cit.:
Zweite, überarbeitete und erweiterte Neuauflage des in erster Auflage auch als »Neuer Kosmos Vogelführers« erschienenen Bestimmungsbuches von Lars Svensson und Peter J. Grant, jedoch nun in zweiter überarbeiteter und erweiterter englischer Auflage (die deutsche Ausgabe dieser zweiten Auflage erscheint im Frühjahr 2011).
Source: http://shorterlink.de/?9db007

I don´t know how correct this information is but at the present I do believe it. Ordered the english version therewhile which I will donate my brother in law (in poland they use the english version) when the german edition is available ;-)
 

scary-canary

Canaries forever... and i'm not always scary, some
£13.49 from play.com
http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/8077014/Collins-Bird-Guide/Product.html?&_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:8077014|cat:Books+%3E+Reference
 

PhilW

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Got my two copies late last week after pre-ordering a few months ago - one for the car and one for home. Must say its brilliant but I'm a bit confused over the treatment of 'Steppe' Grey Shrike.
 

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