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Colombia, Bogotá region, 03/20 (1 Viewer)

Lanugoh

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Could anyone help to id this bird? I saw it March last year in the region around Bogotá in Colombia.
 

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AveryBartels

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This is Common Chlorospingus. The subspecies (flavopectus) around Bogota have darker, dusky eyes but note the darker head than Ashy-throated shows. This is an EXTREMELY common error for the Bogota area. A while back I went through and reviewed a bunch of these errors in eBird media but there are likely a bunch more now from places like Chicaque Natural Park.
 

THE_FERN

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This is Common Chlorospingus. The subspecies (flavopectus) around Bogota have darker, dusky eyes but note the darker head than Ashy-throated shows. This is an EXTREMELY common error for the Bogota area. A while back I went through and reviewed a bunch of these errors in eBird media but there are likely a bunch more now from places like Chicaque Natural Park.
Not calling this into question (thanks for the note): does it mean the proaves guide is wrong? It shows flavopectus with a pale eye.
 

njlarsen

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Here is a scan from the page I was referring to

Niels
 

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Andy Adcock

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Yes illustrations look good (although choice of map colours indistinguishable). We need AndyAdcock to tell us how the new Hilty guide stacks up
Best I can do with a 2 year old climbing on me, top image is flavopectus......
 

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THE_FERN

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Short answer would seem to be yes.
Great thanks. So far conclusion seems to be "probably need all 3 guides". Proaves gives better indication of subspecies ranges and illustrates some the others don't (but illustrations not great even when correct). Quinones/Hilty illustrates subspecies correctly & pics are good. Quinones shows more sspp. Hilty gives more background. Good thing my mobile has a micro SD...
 

njlarsen

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I would tend to go with Avery Bartels who seems to have the local knowledge the rest of us are missing. Checking the images on BoW for Ashy-throated just convinced me, that is NOT the OP bird. flavopectus for me.

Niels
 

Andy Adcock

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I would tend to go with Avery Bartels who seems to have the local knowledge the rest of us are missing. Checking the images on BoW for Ashy-throated just convinced me, that is NOT the OP bird. flavopectus for me.

Niels
I see that Ashy-throated is illustrated in the Lynx guide, with a pale, lower mandible compared to the all dark bill of flavopectus, don't know if this might be a separating feature?
 

njlarsen

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Yet in the Lynx guide, looks almost white?
The photos I saw: if the throat was near white then the crown was paler than what we see here; and if the crown was darker almost like here, then the throat was decidedly grey. So less difference between crown/sides of head and throat than on this image.

Niels
 
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