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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NoSpringChicken" data-source="post: 1479878" data-attributes="member: 53267">Point taken Kevin. The Opticrons are in a different class to the Zeiss compacts but I think the 8x32 Discovery makes quite a good case for itself. Compare the specs from the Sherwoods website (one of the best online retailers in the UK):Opticron Discovery 8x32 - size 108x117mm, weight 390gm (not 682gm!), FOV 131m, minimum focus 1.2m, price £109.Zeiss Victory 8x20 - size 102x97mm, weight 225gm , FOV 117m, minimum focus 3.3m, price £375.I still maintain that the differences in size and weight are not that great. As I said, I don't get on with double hinge binoculars so I would probably go for a compact 8x32 instead if I had to have a pocketable binocular. Other people might prefer the undoubted superior optical and build quality of the Zeiss at over three times the price.Ron</blockquote>