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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kristoffer" data-source="post: 1565438" data-attributes="member: 67002">Hello everyone. A while ago I searched for a pair of 8x20 bins to take with me all the time. First I tried a pair of cheap Nikons but they were faulty out of the box so I sent them back and got a refund. I decided to buy the Leica Trinovids 8x20, and I really like them. The image they provide is very good, they outperformed my Vipers, and they are truly pocketable.However I do want a pair that is waterproof and gasfilled since I use them so much. I believe that I have narrowed down my choice to either the Ultravids 8x20 (since they are only better then my Trinovids) or the Nikon Premier LX L 8x20. I was curious about the Zeiss Victory 8x20 but I heard bad stuff about the small focus wheel and I decided it was a deal breaker. So are there any other options from lets say Vortex or other company out there or should I just buy one of these? Note that I don´t want anything bigger then these two, no porros or 8x25 etc. and I want a image as good or better then my Trinovids offer. Anyone own both or has tried both long enough to give some opinions?</blockquote>