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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 2983661" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p><strong>Now let´s change Piculet!</strong></p><p></p><p>While we´re at it, we might as well solve Lafresnaye’s Piculet <em>Picumnus lafresnayi</em> at the same time!</p><p></p><p>This Piculet was described by the same Alfred Malherbe, also in 1862, in the same book, (the same link as in Post #1), actually on the same page where the text of "Castelnaud's" Piculet ended, on p.282.</p><p></p><p>From what I can see there´s no dedication, or anything else regarding Lafresnay in this the (acknowledged) very brief type description itself (<span style="color: DarkRed">attached</span>). But according to Malherbe this species had already been described by "J. Verreaux"!? </p><p></p><p><span style="color: Blue">Anyone know what text, by Verreaux, Malherbe was referring to?</span></p><p></p><p>If not I think we´re just a bit lucky, since there is yet another Piculet (on the same page) the "<em>PICUMNE SQUAMULÉ</em>" (todays's Scaled Piculet <em>Picumnus squamulatus </em>LAFRESNAYE 1854). In this text (<span style="color: DarkRed">attached</span>) regarding the latter Piculet Malherbe refer to Monsieur "<em>le baron de Lafresnay</em>" and to an article that he, the "<em>le baron</em>", wrote in "<em>Revue zool. 1854</em>" (= Revue et Magasin de Zoologie Pure et Appliquée) … so I think we can be pretty sure we´re dealing with the well-known French naturalist; ornithologist, entomologist, traveller and collector <em>Baron </em><strong>Noël Frédéric Armand André de Lafresnay </strong>(<strong>1783</strong>–<strong>1861</strong>), whose Noble name sometimes is written <em><strong>La Fresnay</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Blue">But just to be on the safe side, better safe than sorry … anyone have any idea, any clue, of where to find that claimed, Verreaux's earlier, description of <em>Picumnus lafresnayi</em> (or what came to be the same)?</span></p><p></p><p>It would be great to find that one … hopefully with a unquestionable dedication, a "good quote" or at least a clear indication that we´re looking for the proper Lafresnay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 2983661, member: 113430"] [b]Now let´s change Piculet![/b] While we´re at it, we might as well solve Lafresnaye’s Piculet [I]Picumnus lafresnayi[/I] at the same time! This Piculet was described by the same Alfred Malherbe, also in 1862, in the same book, (the same link as in Post #1), actually on the same page where the text of "Castelnaud's" Piculet ended, on p.282. From what I can see there´s no dedication, or anything else regarding Lafresnay in this the (acknowledged) very brief type description itself ([COLOR="DarkRed"]attached[/COLOR]). But according to Malherbe this species had already been described by "J. Verreaux"!? [COLOR="Blue"]Anyone know what text, by Verreaux, Malherbe was referring to?[/COLOR] If not I think we´re just a bit lucky, since there is yet another Piculet (on the same page) the "[I]PICUMNE SQUAMULÉ[/I]" (todays's Scaled Piculet [I]Picumnus squamulatus [/I]LAFRESNAYE 1854). In this text ([COLOR="DarkRed"]attached[/COLOR]) regarding the latter Piculet Malherbe refer to Monsieur "[I]le baron de Lafresnay[/I]" and to an article that he, the "[I]le baron[/I]", wrote in "[I]Revue zool. 1854[/I]" (= Revue et Magasin de Zoologie Pure et Appliquée) … so I think we can be pretty sure we´re dealing with the well-known French naturalist; ornithologist, entomologist, traveller and collector [I]Baron [/I][B]Noël Frédéric Armand André de Lafresnay [/B]([B]1783[/B]–[B]1861[/B]), whose Noble name sometimes is written [I][B]La Fresnay[/B][/I]. [COLOR="Blue"]But just to be on the safe side, better safe than sorry … anyone have any idea, any clue, of where to find that claimed, Verreaux's earlier, description of [I]Picumnus lafresnayi[/I] (or what came to be the same)?[/COLOR] It would be great to find that one … hopefully with a unquestionable dedication, a "good quote" or at least a clear indication that we´re looking for the proper Lafresnay. [/QUOTE]
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