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Message: <blockquote data-quote="l_raty" data-source="post: 2984569" data-attributes="member: 24811">Just some more info about Castelnau:Francis de Castelnau was the illegitimate son of Louise Joséphine de Caumont la Force, daughter of Bertrand Nompar de Caumont La Force, and widow of Marie Antoine Alexandre Dieudonné Edouard, Comte de Mesnard. (The Comte and Comtesse de Mesnard had emigrated to Britain after the French Revolution; he later returned secretly, but was caught, sentenced to death, and executed near Paris in 1797.) Some sources suggest that Francis' father may have been the future king George IV.It seems that his status as an illegitimate child was at the origin of the instability of his name (and also of some uncertainties surrounding his birth date--some sources indeed say 1810, but others 1802 or 1812). "Nompar de Caumont la Force" was obviously inherited from his mother's family. I don't know the origin of "La Porte". (Neither do I know how he got his title, nor to which "Castelnau" it referred. "Castelnau" [not normally with a final -d] is the Occitan equivalent of "Newcastle"; it is a widespread toponym in S France.)</blockquote>