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CONFUSED! Teals (1 Viewer)

gold21

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Can somebody put me on the right track please.
While out yesterday graffing at Leighton Moss somebody pointed out that the bird I was taking the picture of was not a Teal, but a Green-winged Teal.
The subject certainly did have green wing flashes, but, is it genuine (Green-winged Teal) and is it a legit sub species?
I uploaded a picture onto the photo gallery earlier today with said bird as subject, but with a species as unsure note, and nobody as ventured as to what the two birds were!
It set me wondering, are Teal and Green-winged separate within the UK?
This birding hobby is confusing enough at present (newboy in the woods) but surely they dont suddenly change species names, do they?
Ken
 

pratincol

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Generally if a Green winged Teal had been spotted there it would be on the Lancaster and District Birdwatching Society website.It is a well watched site with regular updates on the website.Just looking at it there is no mention of Green Winged Teal.
The thing to look out for on a male GWT is the vertical white flash on the side of the breast.The GWT is the American version and sometimes they find their way across here.
If it was a female GWT I wouldn't have the foggiest how to separate it from a female Common Teal.As far as I know they are virtually the same-but I stand to be corrected.
You have to be careful at Leighton.There are a lot of well meaning but inexperienced birdwatchers who make claims about birds which are simply plain wrong eg Curlew Sandpiper which turn out to be Dunlin, Lesser Black Back Gulls which are supposed to be Yellow Legged Gulls and Common Redshanks awarded the status of Spotted Redshanks.
The observers go home happy thinking they have seen something rare -so alls well that ends well.
 
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dan pointon

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Should be added that all Eurasian Teal have this green wing flash as the birds in your picture show, the name Green-winged Teal is an example of one which doesn't describe characteristics unique to that species
 

gold21

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Thanks to you all, didnt realise there were politics in the birding world :)))
Had kind of figured there was some cause for "tongue in cheek" approach on the Teal, especially yesterday, as the Sedge Warbler I asked for help with on this forum was being advertised by some present as a Cetti's Warbler (which would have been a lifer for me) the Allen pool contained what I knew were 2 Dunlin, but were being advised by a few as Little Stints (more lifers for me) and the Teal, well just a Teal, not another lifer sad to say!
Most helpful replies gents, the Lancaster & District site will certainly be on the search bar after mail is sent out!
To all involved, regards and thanks again.
Ken
 

Rotherbirder

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Thanks to you all, didnt realise there were politics in the birding world :)))
Had kind of figured there was some cause for "tongue in cheek" approach on the Teal, especially yesterday, as the Sedge Warbler I asked for help with on this forum was being advertised by some present as a Cetti's Warbler (which would have been a lifer for me) the Allen pool contained what I knew were 2 Dunlin, but were being advised by a few as Little Stints (more lifers for me) and the Teal, well just a Teal, not another lifer sad to say!
Most helpful replies gents, the Lancaster & District site will certainly be on the search bar after mail is sent out!
To all involved, regards and thanks again.
Ken

Herein lies a lesson Ken. Do not take the word of others as gospel. Question everything; ask yourself why it is what it is and in this way you will progress quickly. Get to grips with the common species and you'll know when you've got something 'different'. Birding is a test of patience, diligence and careful observation. Spend regular time in the field and it will come; soon you'll have the skill and confidence to put these people right yourself. Good birding ...

RB
 

pratincol

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Thanks to you all, didnt realise there were politics in the birding world :)))
Had kind of figured there was some cause for "tongue in cheek" approach on the Teal, especially yesterday, as the Sedge Warbler I asked for help with on this forum was being advertised by some present as a Cetti's Warbler (which would have been a lifer for me) the Allen pool contained what I knew were 2 Dunlin, but were being advised by a few as Little Stints (more lifers for me) and the Teal, well just a Teal, not another lifer sad to say!
Most helpful replies gents, the Lancaster & District site will certainly be on the search bar after mail is sent out!
To all involved, regards and thanks again.
Ken

Dunlins can go three ways at Leighton- Dunlin,Little Stint or Curlew Sandpiper.
Take you pick!
 
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Pete Mella

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There's a certain type of birder that hangs round all flagship reserves that knows a little bit, but likes to play the expert to people who are less experienced than them. They'll make huge mistakes, but say it so authoritatively that people presume they know what they're talking about. When they don't know something, they'll make it up anyway.

Always beware of "man in hide"!
 

delia todd

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Yes I agree with you Andy, but let's not take the thread off topic.
 
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