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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fugl" data-source="post: 3547850" data-attributes="member: 816">I find it very hard to make any sense at all of this hodgepodge in the present context--Fiscal irresponsibility??Gravy train??Get off the podium??The Democrats 'lost' because of the massive defection of their traditional white working class base which happened for a variety of reasons. Dissatisfaction with Obama's environmental policies was one of these certainly but by no means the most important. Looming as large or larger were a whole host of other issues: "immigration", particularly from Mexico; worries about Islamic terrorism; disquiet over social changes (gay marriage, etc, etc, etc.); concern over demographics (growth of non-whites as a percentage of the population); various economic factors (de-unionization, job insecurity, declining employment opportunities for those--men particularly--without college degrees).  Everybody in the party leadership is cognizant of these problems and is working on ways to bring the disaffected elements back into the fold. The strong likelihood that Trump will continue to betray his base in favor of family interests and the monied establishment should be a big help in this.  [He certainly gave it his best not long ago in his failed attempt to deprive millions of his supporters of their health insurance].In the meantime, we live with the prospect of a stare-down between an insecure, unfit American president with zero impulse control, and the pudgy little monster running North Korea, each with his index finger on a nuclear button.</blockquote>

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