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Corona virus threat to birding (1 Viewer)

At the rate countries are closing borders and airlines are stopping flights ,don't think any of us will be taking foreign trips for a good while. Jet2 and Tui have just stopped flights to all of Spain ,including the Canaries which I didn't think was affected apart from that Tenerife hotel business. The issue is that bars, hotel facilities ,restaurants etc will all be closed down , so meaning a sub-standard holiday for the average tripper.
We're booked for Lesbos in early May - will the Greeks want foreign visitors from countries with more cases than themselves ? Fortunately, it's a package holiday so fully refundable. We're also booked to visit the Minsmere area in April - will such places be closed by then ? Maybe.
 
That's nonsense - no one knows where the first Italian case comes from.

Germany is still (far!) behind most Western European countries in deaths (and far ahead in number of people tested). However, based on the current increase this will soon change...

Genetic analysis suggests Italy was infected from the fist German cluster in that automotive firm where a Chinese visitor was, or at least so was published a few weeks ago.
 
Andy

Good luck with the beetles. A delicious irony is that the excellent author is married to the mother of someone whom you had a spat with on this forum very recently. Small world.

All the best

Sorry Paul, there are soooo, many, doesn't narrow it down much.......B :)
 
Ten more fatalities in the UK, total now twenty one, all new fatalities were in the 'at risk group'.

Edit: Jet2 flights from UK to Spain, where there have been 1500 new cases of the virus, turn round in mid-air. Flight tracking information shows at least five Jet2 planes travelling to Spain turned around to return to the UK.
 
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well...another silver lining...

It did occur to me, with birders having less other things to do and many working from home with more flexible schedules, there will be far far more coverage of local sites, at least here in the US. So it will be interesting to see if more rarities get discovered than they would otherwise.

Still keeping my fingers crossed that my May 24th Panama trip is still a go...
 
On the bright side,less people outdoors.Less potential for disturbing breeding birds.The last foot & mouth outbreak,saw a better breeding year for new forest birds.
 
While many county parks are closing around here, I went up to a nearby state park and found that not only was it open, but they'd also re-opened some of the areas of the park that were closed for the winter.

I wonder how long that will last.
 
US travel ban to be extended to include UK and Ireland from Monday, we should reciprocate given the state of play over there?
 
US travel ban to be extended to include UK and Ireland from Monday, we should reciprocate given the state of play over there?

I would. It's only going to get worse here for a while.

Bear in mind, I don't think there are going to be that many Americans getting on planes bound for anywhere in Europe right now. The general ignorance of geography in the US will expand the ban to even non-Schengen Europe and likely the rest of the Old World.
 
Genetic analysis suggests Italy was infected from the fist German cluster in that automotive firm where a Chinese visitor was, or at least so was published a few weeks ago.

Yes, that has been confirmed, but they still haven't found, and I doubt that they ever will, the actual person or persons that brought the virus to Italy from the German cluster.
 
Looking in the long term, I wonder how many places in economically less developed countries will go bust without overseas tourists. I have trips to Uganda and Tanzania planned. I suspect neither will happen. I'm trying not to think of lost money as they're independent trips but I do wonder if the places where I'd planned to stay will still be there should I go next year if they have a long spell with no tourists.

Obviously this is far more serious for the owners and workers in these places than it is for me.
 
US travel ban to be extended to include UK and Ireland from Monday, we should reciprocate given the state of play over there?

What about military aircraft flights to and from Europe - they occur daily and stop over eg. Cargo C17s from the USA to Turkey, Italy, Greece, Middle East, occassionally dropping into Mildenhall. And some F15 Eagles have recently returned to Lakenheath from overseas duty in Europe, plus support personnel, and not restricted to stay on the bases.
 
Looking in the long term, I wonder how many places in economically less developed countries will go bust without overseas tourists. I have trips to Uganda and Tanzania planned. I suspect neither will happen. I'm trying not to think of lost money as they're independent trips but I do wonder if the places where I'd planned to stay will still be there should I go next year if they have a long spell with no tourists.

Obviously this is far more serious for the owners and workers in these places than it is for me.

Indeed Steve, it’s more serious for people who work in these places than it’s for visitors. A colleague who works in this industry (manager of a hostel) already felt the effects even before the Moroccan authorities started stopping flights from and to some European countries. I know also some acquaintances that are in the same situation. It’s already really bad.
 
What about military aircraft flights to and from Europe - they occur daily and stop over eg. Cargo C17s from the USA to Turkey, Italy, Greece, Middle East, occassionally dropping into Mildenhall. And some F15 Eagles have recently returned to Lakenheath from overseas duty in Europe, plus support personnel, and not restricted to stay on the bases.

Since you ask, three B2As arrived at Fairford 2 days ago, one from Stateside, two from Portugal. Photos on the birds and planes thread idc. :t:

John
 
What about military aircraft flights to and from Europe - they occur daily and stop over eg. Cargo C17s from the USA to Turkey, Italy, Greece, Middle East, occassionally dropping into Mildenhall. And some F15 Eagles have recently returned to Lakenheath from overseas duty in Europe, plus support personnel, and not restricted to stay on the bases.

Where do you get your information from?

US military personnel are following self-isolating advice like the rest of us

https://www.thetfordandbrandontimes...ce-to-prevent-spread-of-coronavirus-1-6554067

There’s enough guesswork and armchair medics out there on the internet, lets make sure we fact check before posting eh folks - keep it real.
 
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but I do wonder if the places where I'd planned to stay will still be there should I go next year if they have a long spell with no tourists.

The trees might have gone too, if there aren't any tourists coming to visit, not just the places to stay.
 
Where do you get your information from?
US military personnel are following self-isolating advice like the rest of us
https://www.thetfordandbrandontimes...ce-to-prevent-spread-of-coronavirus-1-6554067
There’s enough guesswork and armchair medics out there on the internet, lets make sure we fact check before posting eh folks - keep it real.

On a public forum Deb, really? You're posting what is allowable in the public domain. I'm looking at a real life scenario. Regards.

Norfolk now has a confirmed case at the Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital
 
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On a public forum Deb, really? You're posting what is allowable in the public domain. I'm looking at a real life scenario. Regards.

Again, where do you get your information from? - back it up or it’s not worth taking seriously. I have associates and friends based at Lakenheath and I find your accusation that US military personnel are being irresponsible with regard to the coronavirus frankly insulting.
 
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