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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alexjh1" data-source="post: 3407290" data-attributes="member: 85555">For me, it boils down to a matter of personal preference as much as anything else, obviously if you feel like it doesn't count then don't count it but I tend to take a slightly more philosophical view - that if a species is (or was) established here outside it's natural range, for better or worse it is part of the ecosystem now, and thus part of the fauna of the UK - as such, controversial as this may sound, in some ways I actually regard them as more important ticks than a vagrant.Realistically, there is a not insubstantial chunk of my world list that I've seen only as "pure" introduced/feral populations - Ruddy Duck, Mandarin, Egyptian Goose, Canada Goose, Barnacle Goose, Greylag Goose, Common Pheasant, Lady Amherst's Pheasant, Monk Parakeet, Ring Necked Parakeet, Common Waxbill, Rock Dove, Red Kite and Osprey would be off my list, despite the fact that arguably, they are far "wilder" than for instance my tick of Red-crowned cranes at a feeding station.In general... I'd probably go with a compromise of ticking them but be aware you are doing so?</blockquote>