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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Himalaya" data-source="post: 1474552" data-attributes="member: 56069">i dont know much about roadrunners but if you comapre gulls/crows with hawks its a different case.  hawks are only predators and the cant survive off scraps, seeds.  crows and gulls on the other hand are a different case.  they will eat insects, carrion, scraps, refuse and we probably deep down feel that these birds should not kill others for survival as they are not dependent upon it.  i would love to see a bird of prey hunting and even it it caught a very rare species in front of my eyes i would not feel so bad but if it was a crow/gull attacking a phalarope for example i would feel a bit angry. i have yet to have seen any crow attack anything although i think i would like too now.   i read on a blog how 2 carrion crows chased a buzzard off a kill.  why do most crow victims appear to be waders?</blockquote>