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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dantheman" data-source="post: 1699379" data-attributes="member: 32998">Thing is, of course, that a lot of other people have observed, studied and reported on these things. Whilst they may all have missed something obvious which was staring them in the face, I think it is highly unlikely (although not impossible of course - pushing the boundaries and questioning established science and theories always a good thing). Maybe you are confusing 'Cause' and 'Effect' somewhere along the line... Maybe the males don't take the nightshift (if indeed it is true) because they sing at dawn.  The fact that you don't hear as much birdsong in the day is the resulting side-effect.I think Stuart has already pointed out, it is the timing of the singing which causes the behaviour you have observed, rather than the behaviour causing the timing of the singing.A simple error to make as you have gone about your observations... and possibly easily done. Seems like your pigeon fancier friends have observed the same, and made the same mistake (?) as they are not looking at the full picture in the wild, as they are using captive birds.</blockquote>